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By the way, the City of Edmonton Licence department state that Rodd 
DOES NOT HAVE A BUSINESS LICENCE for his place on 153 St. 
north of 111 Avenue!!

His voluminous ads posted as a second dealer through UsedEdmonton.com 
are primae faciae proof of his business operation.


On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:01:03 GMT, George Orwell
 wrote:

>Copies of all ads from Rodd and his many aliases are forwarded to CRA, 
>Head Office Ottawa - Special Investigations - Tax Avoidance Section, 
>as primae faciae proof of illegal tax avoidance activities.
>So far, a full CD of his ads has been supplied,with more being readied.

>He sure has a lot of junk for sale, under all his aliases.


>On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:46:56 GMT, ErnstZundholz
> wrote:

>If you must deal with this scammer, make sure you get a receipt showing 
>name,address, phone and Social Insurance Number.
>This would be evidence for when you have to sue him.

>Or, if the police fiind out that what you bought was stolen goods, then at
>least you would have some evidence for suing him.


>>On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:20:17 GMT, JimMcCarthy
>> wrote:

>>>Not only does David Poon exist, he reports to William Reich, Director, for the
>>>Edmonton CRA office.

>>>Glad to see that you are admitting to being an unlicenced second-hand dealer
>>>of computers, flooding the newsgroups with all your secondhand computers 
>>>and parts.

>>>Now the City Licence inspectors will be demanding money for operating 
>>>without a licence.

>>>Then, the City Tax department will force you to get a rezoning, for operating
>>>a second-hand business from the home.

>>>And, you might even get fired from working at Dell, and selling their used
>>>junk parts, in competition with their new crap, which is in contravention to
>>>their terms of employment you signed.


>>>On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 22:52:31 GMT, "RodnSue"  wrote:

>>>>DAVID POON is a figment of your sad imagination, no such person exists at 
>>>>canada place dill hole, your such an old sienile man. A poor excuse for a 
>>>>human, you should be hung upside down on a tree, with a fork stuck in your 
>>>>ass. David Poon will then appear and smear yougurt all over your pulsating 
>>>>balls. No thats too good for ya....1 Bullet would do....
>>>>David Poon  can blow me, and lick my nutts, because he dont exists. 
>>>>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>>>Now down to business, I have 23-Optiplex GX 270`s, 12-280`s and a bunch of 
>>>>Latitude`s to unload cheap, Just dont expect a warranty, because there as 
>>>>real as David Poon.

>>>>"BenJKramer"  wrote in message 
>>>>news:eaebo2lgjldcrag4dhg523ei2qj0tr880o@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 17:59:54 GMT, "Mike W."  wrote:

>>>>>>Hey dipshit...
>>>>>>WHERE did Rodd ever say he bought this computer from his employer Dell ?

>>>>> He admitted this several times in response to comments from another 
>>>>> poster, claiming he worked on Dell's 3rd floor.

>>>>>>Even so ? QUOTE me the regulation, asshole.. SHOW me where it says I can't
>>>>>>resell a purchased used computer without running a business for it ? Show 
>>>>>>me the regulation that says I can't sell a THOUSAND of them, so long as I am
>>>>>>not doing it under a company name or charging any tax for it.

>>>>> You need to read the Canada Income Tax Act, and also CRA Regulations.

>>>>>>I am sure it's YOU the tax department is interested in, Bill. Probably 
>>>>>>CSIS and the RCMP too. Oh and by the way ? The CRA? BY LAW has to list all
>>>>>>employees publicly. No David Poon listed anywhere. You imagined him. You
>>>>>>know it... Now we all know it.

>>>>> CRA does have an Insp. David Poon, whom you can reach at Canada Place.

>>>>>>"DrErnstZundholz"  wrote in 
>>>>>>message
>>>>>>news:8k5kk2pqtpud3r9lapdd8rnbq46jrkcv8g@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On 1 Nov 2006 18:17:45 -0800, "Tangent"  wrote:

>>>>>>> Buying and selling quantities of computers, purchased from the employer
>>>>>>> DELL, at staff discount pricing, constitutes running a business under 
>>>>>>> CRA  Regulations.

>>>>>>> The tax department is very interested in the "underground economy" and 
>>>>>>> tax avoiders. Just ask Bax and the senior people of Edmonton Freenet for
>>>>>>> example.

>>>>>>>>> The person he named has never in his life ever been to Saskatchewan, 
>>>>>>>>> nor has had business dealings there either.

>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, Inspector David Poon of S.I.- CRA will be 
>>>>>>>>> considering what to do about Rod and his unlicenced second-hand computers 
>>>>>>>>> business.

>>>>>>>>> When the tax people visit Dell to verify how many computers you bought
>>>>>>>>> and sold, do you still think that you will be working at Dell?




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By the way, the City of Edmonton Licence department state that Rodd 
operating as Rodd4Sale, DOES NOT HAVE A BUSINESS LICENCE 
for his place on 153 St. north of 111 Avenue!!

His voluminous ads posted as a secondhand  dealer through 
UsedEdmonton.com are primae faciae proof of his business operation.


On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:01:03 GMT, George Orwell
 wrote:

>Copies of all ads from Rodd and his many aliases are forwarded to CRA, 
>Head Office Ottawa - Special Investigations - Tax Avoidance Section, 
>as primae faciae proof of illegal tax avoidance activities.
>So far, a full CD of his ads has been supplied,with more being readied.

>He sure has a lot of junk for sale, under all his aliases.

And on his website rodd4sale.usededmonton.com


>On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:46:56 GMT, ErnstZundholz
> wrote:

>If you must deal with this scammer, make sure you get a receipt showing 
>name,address, phone and Social Insurance Number.
>This would be evidence for when you have to sue him.

>Or, if the police fiind out that what you bought was stolen goods, then at
>least you would have some evidence for suing him.


>>On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:20:17 GMT, JimMcCarthy
>> wrote:

>>>Not only does David Poon exist, he reports to William Reich, Director, for the
>>>Edmonton CRA office.

>>>Glad to see that you are admitting to being an unlicenced second-hand dealer
>>>of computers, flooding the newsgroups with all your secondhand computers 
>>>and parts.

>>>Now the City Licence inspectors will be demanding money for operating 
>>>without a licence.

>>>Then, the City Tax department will force you to get a rezoning, for operating
>>>a second-hand business from the home.

>>>And, you might even get fired from working at Dell, and selling their used
>>>junk parts, in competition with their new crap, which is in contravention to
>>>their terms of employment you signed.


>>>On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 22:52:31 GMT, "RodnSue"  wrote:

>>>>DAVID POON is a figment of your sad imagination, no such person exists at 
>>>>canada place dill hole, your such an old sienile man. A poor excuse for a 
>>>>human, you should be hung upside down on a tree, with a fork stuck in your 
>>>>ass. David Poon will then appear and smear yougurt all over your pulsating 
>>>>balls. No thats too good for ya....1 Bullet would do....
>>>>David Poon  can blow me, and lick my nutts, because he dont exists. 
>>>>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>>>Now down to business, I have 23-Optiplex GX 270`s, 12-280`s and a bunch of 
>>>>Latitude`s to unload cheap, Just dont expect a warranty, because there as 
>>>>real as David Poon.

>>>>"BenJKramer"  wrote in message 
>>>>news:eaebo2lgjldcrag4dhg523ei2qj0tr880o@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 17:59:54 GMT, "Mike W."  wrote:

>>>>>>Hey dipshit...
>>>>>>WHERE did Rodd ever say he bought this computer from his employer Dell ?

>>>>> He admitted this several times in response to comments from another 
>>>>> poster, claiming he worked on Dell's 3rd floor.

>>>>>>Even so ? QUOTE me the regulation, asshole.. SHOW me where it says I can't
>>>>>>resell a purchased used computer without running a business for it ? Show 
>>>>>>me the regulation that says I can't sell a THOUSAND of them, so long as I am
>>>>>>not doing it under a company name or charging any tax for it.

>>>>> You need to read the Canada Income Tax Act, and also CRA Regulations.

>>>>>>I am sure it's YOU the tax department is interested in, Bill. Probably 
>>>>>>CSIS and the RCMP too. Oh and by the way ? The CRA? BY LAW has to list all
>>>>>>employees publicly. No David Poon listed anywhere. You imagined him. You
>>>>>>know it... Now we all know it.

>>>>> CRA does have an Insp. David Poon, whom you can reach at Canada Place.

>>>>>>"DrErnstZundholz"  wrote in 
>>>>>>message
>>>>>>news:8k5kk2pqtpud3r9lapdd8rnbq46jrkcv8g@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> On 1 Nov 2006 18:17:45 -0800, "Tangent"  wrote:

>>>>>>> Buying and selling quantities of computers, purchased from the employer
>>>>>>> DELL, at staff discount pricing, constitutes running a business under 
>>>>>>> CRA  Regulations.

>>>>>>> The tax department is very interested in the "underground economy" and 
>>>>>>> tax avoiders. Just ask Bax and the senior people of Edmonton Freenet for
>>>>>>> example.

>>>>>>>>> The person he named has never in his life ever been to Saskatchewan, 
>>>>>>>>> nor has had business dealings there either.

>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, Inspector David Poon of S.I.- CRA will be 
>>>>>>>>> considering what to do about Rod and his unlicenced second-hand computers 
>>>>>>>>> business.

>>>>>>>>> When the tax people visit Dell to verify how many computers you bought
>>>>>>>>> and sold, do you still think that you will be working at Dell?




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Not even the Canadian CRTC can force a US website to close!!
Canada is not yet a part of the USA, and stupid Canadian court orders do not
have any effect in the USA, where FREEDOM OF SPEECH is protected by the
Constitution.

In the meantime, the US-based website for  the former Reinhard Mueller
continues in operation, even though a flunky Canuck judge had ordered it to be
closed.

On 25 Aug 2006 03:27:45 -0700, "Toto the Dog"  wrote:

>CRTC Refuses To Issue Immediate Ban On This Website
>Google Bans Name "Dossier Noir"; "Dosier Noir" Opens

>8/23/2006 5:36:18 PM
>Discuss this story in the forum
>LSN Staff

>Ottawa, Canada -- The Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications
>Council today refused to grant Jewish Canadian attorney Richard Warman
>an immediate ban on this website and its IP, as Google banned any
>blogger user from using the name "Dossier Noir", causing Bill White to
>set up a new Google blog account "Dosier Noir".

>"They act like no one has tried to take me off the internet before,"
>White, a real estate investor who previously owned an internet
>consulting business told the press, "There is nothing they can do,
>technically, that I cannot circumvent, if I decide its worth the time
>and money to do so."

>White told the Canadian Press today that he felt the Canadian
>government was making his point: That peaceful political change in
>Canada is no longer possible, and that it is time for Canadians to take
>up arms. When asked about how Jews in the country perceive him as evil,
>White said:

>"Good always looks evil to evil."

>White said his comments about Canada and the need for a change in the
>Canadian government were no different than similar comments US and
>Canadian Jews have made about the need for "regime change" in Iraq or
>North Korea:

>"If we can go to war to establish democracy in Iraq, a country
>thousands of miles away, then we can certainly go to war to
>re-establish democracy on our Northern border."

>White has been battling the Canadian government for years, insulting
>its Jewish leaders and harassing its intelligence and military
>officials. In 2003, Bernie Farber attempted to shut down this website
>after White published a poem entitled "slaughter of Zion". 

>In 2004, the Canadian Security and Intelligence Service attempted to come after
>White after White got the private cell phone number of its Director and
>began calling him in the evening to ask why he was harassing Ernst
>Zundel. Earlier this year, Canadian newspapers, all of which are owned
>by the Jews David and Leonard Asper, attacked White for supporting
>white nationalist Alex Linder and imprisoned Canadian dissident Tom
>Winnicki.

>"When men can no longer peacefuly express their dissent with their
>government," White says, "They have no choice but to resort to
>non-peaceful means.

>"I mean, what does Warman think? That we're just going to let him
>imprison and harass and victimize people while we stand by and smile?
>Let him meet his just fate -- execution at the hands of a people's
>government."

>White contends that Jews have taken over the Canadian media -- directly
>owning almost all of it -- and use that, combined with their
>international political influence, to control the Canadian government
>and use it to exploit, rob and murder Canada's white population.

Emailed to you by:

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Glad to see that Truro believes in traditional family values, and not the
perverted AIDS-spreaders.

Guess the other 2 communities must have a lot of disgusting perverts 
living and spreading their diseases  there?

On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 04:51:09 -0700, robertpeffers@aol.com wrote:

>Truro in gay flag flap
>Last Updated: Friday, August 3, 2007 | 3:59 PM AT
>CBC News

>Truro won't be flying a rainbow-coloured flag at the town hall to
>support gay pride activities, unlike two other nearby Nova Scotia
>municipalities.

>Town council rejected a request from the Truro Pride group, saying it
>came in late and there was no time for a debate.

>Lynn MacKinnon, with Truro Pride, calls this blatant discrimination.

>"I thought that our town was accepting," MacKinnon told CBC News on
>Friday.

>"The flag means to me a long, long struggle that we've had. Where we
>are now is pretty good, but there's been people who've been beaten and
>lost their jobs, so the flag represents a lot of heartaches."

>Council voted 6-1 against raising the flag to coincide with next
>week's gay pride activities in Pictou County.

>Mayor Bill Mills is standing by the vote, saying, as a Christian, he
>simply could not support the request.

>"God says I'm not in favour of that and I have to look at it and say,
>I guess I'm not either," Mills said.

>The mayor said gays and lesbians already have equal opportunities and
>work and pension benefits, so he wonders what else they're fighting
>for.

>By raising the rainbow flag, he added, that might open the door for
>other groups.

>"If I have a group of people that says pedophiles should have rights,
>do we raise their flag too? I don't want to lump them in with
>homosexuals, but that's the point, the issues, and that's my feeling.

>"There doesn't seem to be standards anymore. Everything is OK,
>everything is a go."

>Mills said maybe next year council will vote to fly the rainbow flag.
>But even if there is a debate, he said he won't be changing his
>stance.

>In the nearby Municipality of Colchester County, Mayor Mike Smith has
>agreed to fly the flag. It will also be flown in New Glasgow.

>http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2007/08/03/truro-gay.html



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Copies of all ads from Rodd and his many aliases are forwarded to CRA, 
Head Office Ottawa - Special Investigations - Tax Avoidance Section, 
as primae faciae proof of illegal tax avoidance activities.
So far, a full CD of his ads has been supplied,with more being readied.

He sure has a lot of junk for sale, under all his aliases.


On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:46:56 GMT, ErnstZundholz
 wrote:

If you must deal with this scammer, make sure you get a receipt showing 
name,address, phone and Social Insurance Number.
This would be evidence for when you have to sue him.

Or, if the police fiind out that what you bought was stolen goods, then at
least you would have some evidence for suing him.


>On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:20:17 GMT, JimMcCarthy
> wrote:

>>Not only does David Poon exist, he reports to William Reich, Director, for the
>>Edmonton CRA office.

>>Glad to see that you are admitting to being an unlicenced second-hand dealer
>>of computers, flooding the newsgroups with all your secondhand computers 
>>and parts.

>>Now the City Licence inspectors will be demanding money for operating 
>>without a licence.

>>Then, the City Tax department will force you to get a rezoning, for operating
>>a second-hand business from the home.

>>And, you might even get fired from working at Dell, and selling their used
>>junk parts, in competition with their new crap, which is in contravention to
>>their terms of employment you signed.


>>On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 22:52:31 GMT, "RodnSue"  wrote:

>>>DAVID POON is a figment of your sad imagination, no such person exists at 
>>>canada place dill hole, your such an old sienile man. A poor excuse for a 
>>>human, you should be hung upside down on a tree, with a fork stuck in your 
>>>ass. David Poon will then appear and smear yougurt all over your pulsating 
>>>balls. No thats too good for ya....1 Bullet would do....
>>>David Poon  can blow me, and lick my nutts, because he dont exists. 
>>>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>>Now down to business, I have 23-Optiplex GX 270`s, 12-280`s and a bunch of 
>>>Latitude`s to unload cheap, Just dont expect a warranty, because there as 
>>>real as David Poon.

>>>"BenJKramer"  wrote in message 
>>>news:eaebo2lgjldcrag4dhg523ei2qj0tr880o@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 17:59:54 GMT, "Mike W."  wrote:

>>>>>Hey dipshit...
>>>>>WHERE did Rodd ever say he bought this computer from his employer Dell ?

>>>> He admitted this several times in response to comments from another 
>>>> poster, claiming he worked on Dell's 3rd floor.

>>>>>Even so ? QUOTE me the regulation, asshole.. SHOW me where it says I can't
>>>>>resell a purchased used computer without running a business for it ? Show 
>>>>>me the regulation that says I can't sell a THOUSAND of them, so long as I am
>>>>>not doing it under a company name or charging any tax for it.

>>>> You need to read the Canada Income Tax Act, and also CRA Regulations.

>>>>>I am sure it's YOU the tax department is interested in, Bill. Probably 
>>>>>CSIS and the RCMP too. Oh and by the way ? The CRA? BY LAW has to list all
>>>>>employees publicly. No David Poon listed anywhere. You imagined him. You
>>>>>know it... Now we all know it.

>>>> CRA does have an Insp. David Poon, whom you can reach at Canada Place.

>>>>>"DrErnstZundholz"  wrote in 
>>>>>message
>>>>>news:8k5kk2pqtpud3r9lapdd8rnbq46jrkcv8g@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On 1 Nov 2006 18:17:45 -0800, "Tangent"  wrote:

>>>>>> Buying and selling quantities of computers, purchased from the employer
>>>>>> DELL, at staff discount pricing, constitutes running a business under 
>>>>>> CRA  Regulations.

>>>>>> The tax department is very interested in the "underground economy" and 
>>>>>> tax avoiders. Just ask Bax and the senior people of Edmonton Freenet for
>>>>>> example.

>>>>>>>> The person he named has never in his life ever been to Saskatchewan, 
>>>>>>>> nor has had business dealings there either.

>>>>>>>> On the other hand, Inspector David Poon of S.I.-CRA will be 
>>>>>>>> considering what to do about Rod and his unlicenced second-hand computers 
>>>>>>>> business.

>>>>>>>> When the tax people visit Dell to verify how many computers you bought
>>>>>>>> and sold, do you still think that you will be working at Dell?




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On Mon, 07 May 2007 08:27:47 GMT, "Teddy Bear"  wrote:

>The Guardian Angels are needed in Edmonton. The mayor and police resistance 
>is understandable. To openly invite the GA into Edmonton would be an 
>affirmation that the police cannot effectively police the city.
>
>Mike


The Edmonton Gestapo thugs are part of the reason that Deadmonton could not
even get into the list of 215 most livable cities!!

Mercer must have read all the international news stories showing pictures of
the crooked cops beating up the 23 year old girls, or the valiant cops beating
up the senior citizen lawyer who was photographing their brutality?

And do not forget all the hundreds of unpaid civilians in CPRN, who do the
work of the overpaid useless thug cops!!


>"KenKnoll"  wrote in message 
>news:lfor33lav72tr2ce551u0lgcl0nhh4dcm5@4ax.com...
>> The Guardian Angels group, headed by their leader, arrived  in Edmonton,
>> Canada, and were featured by all the news media.

>> They had been invited by a local citizen, who had become disgusted with
>> the rising crime, compounded by all the scandals involving crooked police.

>> Even the previous police chief was fired for just cause.
>> Now, the new chief cop is annoyed that an outside source has been
>> called in to do some of his functions.

>> The artsie-fartsie mayor is also annoyed, since it gives bad international
>> publicity to Deadmonton.

>> Hell, Deadmonton couldn't even get on the list of the 215 most livable
>> cities in the world.

>> Baghdad with the civil war DID make the list, while crime-ridden Edmonton
>> Canada did NOT!! 




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On 10 May 2007 03:11:24 -0700, tatarewicz  wrote:

>For most of the last century much of Edmonton's rental housing was
>provided by individuals, either renting part of their homes, or buying
>a second one and renovating it for rent, all with little interference
>from city inspectors.

That is generally known as the free enterprise system, diametrically opposed
to communism, which the NDPers and Lieberals prefer!

>In recent years, as caretaker mayors and council allowed a rampant
>growth in the city bureaucracy, landlords were faced with no end of
>inspectors who issued a long list of remedies following a tenant's
>complaint.  In the past, if you found fault with a rental property you
>simply found a better place.

>A friend had been renting a house for years to individuals who shared
>the dwelling.  One of the tenants decided he could earn some extra
>cash if he complained to the city about peeling paint in the bathroom,
>then offer to do the painting.  The health inspector came up with such
>a long list of improvements: solid core doors for bedrooms, stairs
>handrails (which that particular tenant had removed to haul up some
>furniture)... that my friend kicked them all out, remodelled the
>house, then sold it in the booming market.

>In the case of another friend, a bungalow which would have lasted
>another 50 or a hundred years had to be demolished because the
>inspector's deadline wasn't met.  It was at least twice as sound as
>one of my other friend's houses which I helped to renovate so she
>could sell it.  Still the new buyer, after putting on new vinyl
>siding, sold it for $100-thousand more than he paid for it.

>What precipitated the issue in the case of the demolished house was
>the city allowing the tenant to operate a dog kennel, which of course
>led to complaints from neighbors.  The bureaucrats, instead of fixing
>the problems associated with their kennel decision with the tenant,
>went after the landlord..

>There have no doubt been thousands of Chinese and other immigrants who
>provided low-cost rental accommodation but simply gave up after being
>terrorized with threats of the loss of their property if they didn't
>do this or that.  There was no attempt whatsoever on the part of the
>city to offer technical help or low-cost loans to help a landlord fix
>deficiencies so that low-cost accommodation could be available.

The city of Deadmonton is only interested in fattening the pay cheques 
for the corpulent slobs at the top, both council and bureaucrats, and to 
hell with everyone else!

>Tenants who can't afford today's "high standard" houses have only
>themselves to blame for driving the small, often part-time
>entrepreneur out of the housing market. And it's something to keep in
>mind next October before voting for a candidate who will continue to
>allow the city's bureaucracy to run rampent to the annoyance and
>detriment of its citizens.

Now thanks to the critical shortage of reasonably priced rental housing,
workers from outside Deadmonton will now be forced to reconsider working here.

This will further exacerbate costs, so that more and more rental properties
will get sold as condos, reducing even further the available rental housing.

Great for the sellers who make good capital gains, but tough for the renters
who will be forced to either pay a reasonable, much higher rent, or else leave
town and take their jobs with them!


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On Fri, 11 May 2007 14:58:54 GMT, "PV"  wrote:
>"Canuck57"  wrote in message 
>news:Y8%0i.176096$aG1.5246@pd7urf3no...
>> "GayJamesD"  wrote in message 
>> news:l4L0i.174572$aG1.173349@pd7urf3no...
>>>I agree with myself.................its sad that people are getting 
>>>$1000.00 increases. Its sad that landlords do this to people, but its a 
>>>fact of life now........

>> The renter does not own the property.  If the landlord is asking too 
>> much, the market will fix it.  Move somewhere else.  It is the renters 
>> perogative at the end of the lease to move.  As it is the landlords right 
>> to raise prices to market rates.  If renter does not like new rates, move. 
>> Or better yet, buy a piece of the blue marble.

>> For that mater, Calgary/Edmonton are still relatively cheap when you 
>> compare them to places like Toronto or Vancouver.

>> I suspect this whole issue is another socialist whine.

>And where should they move to?  With vacancy rates below 1%, it's a landlord 
>market and some are handling it reasonably, others are jacking rents $500 - 
>$1000/month.

According to the published reports, these high increases, according to the
landlords, are designed to get rid of "undesirable" tenants, which seems to be
working!

The new legal restarints imposed by the Alberta government only allow
landlords to raise the rents once a year.

Further, for condos being rented out, landlords need only give 3 months
notice, rather than 12 months for regular rental apartments. It seems that
many apartments in Edmonton were converted to condo title many years ago, 
to reduce their city taxes.

>If the renter can't afford $1500/month in rent how can they afford to buy? 
>A buddy of mine just bought a condo with 10% down and the mortgage is 
>$1200/month.

>I don't believe that rent control is a long term solution but there must be 
>some kind of sanity brought into the market to avoid slamming people with 
>the kind of rent increases they are seeing.

In a free market economy, such as is supposed to exist in Oilberta, the
marketplace determines what is a fair rent. For too long landlords have been
forced to subsidize tenants, and now, finally, it is a landlord's market.

>I could easily sit smugly and say "Move if your don't like it", since I have 
>my house bought when the market was sane, but I can see it from the 
>renter's point of view.
>PV 

Very few landlords make a "killing", by the time the crooks at the city tax
department, plus repairs and maintenance get finished.

There is no right in law, in Canada, for low priced rent.

If the tenant can not find suitable rental property, then move, or even leave
Alberta for a communist area where they can afford to rent.

Such places are scarce in Canada, so tough .
If you want decent housing then work for it, share with others, 
or cut down other expenses so you can afford to pay rent.




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On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:12:32 -0700, Frank Arthur  wrote:
>On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 19:34:52 GMT, Carter ,  in wrote:
>>Jeff Rainer wrote:

>>>> Have seen nothing in any of the above which changes my basic premise,
>>>> i.e. if a sentence of "life" really meant life it would take killers
>>>> away from preying on society while also guarding against their being
>>>> executed if later evidence found them to be innocent. DP should remain
>>>> for those who kill police officers or prison guards.

>>> Why is the life of a cop or prison guard more valuable than the life of 
>>> another citizen?

>>It has nothing to do with the value of life.  It recognizes that 
>>to kill someone in authority is a more serious offence than to 
>>kill someone who has no authority over the killer.

>>Carter

>Cops do NOT deserve special consideration, any more than do any 
>other humans killed.

>Killers of cops deserve the DP, the same as do crooked politicians, 
>drug dealers, AIDS-spreaderes and similar vermin!!

>Go back to law of Hamurabi - an eye for an eye!


On Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:08:49 GMT, BenyaminJKramer
,  in wrote:

>A lot of good ideas!

>Now definitely needed for the members of the pedofilia party in Holland!!

>On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:06:56 -0600, Ken McVaySOBC 
>wrote:

>>Be sure to include for immediate extermination, those judges who have approved
>>special rights for the AIDS-spreading fags!!

>>In much of Europe, and the Middle East, such disease spreaders get their just
>>punishment, which in some cases merits the DP!


>>>DP=Good Ways to Eliminate Garbage,especially AIDS-spreading fags!!

>>>This is an old article, which certainly is germane,
>>>since many US states, and foreign countries are
>>>starting to agree with the policies of Don Kool.

>>>There has been much discussion regarding the advantages
>>>of televising executions.

>>>A few more thoughts on the subject.

>>>The State can in fact auction off the rights to each and every
>>>execution. The proceeds thereof could be allocated to the
>>>VICTIMS of the criminals executed.

>>>The victims and their families should have the RIGHT to
>>>not only determine the method of execution, but should also
>>>have the right and privilege of executing the criminals themselves.

Some of the types of criminals meriting execution,
but not limited to such, would include:

        AIDS spreaders
        rapists
        drug dealers
        home invaders
         armed robbers
         pederasts and similar child molesters
         crooked liars/lawyers
         corrupt judges
         corrupt politicians
         insane anti-DP supporters such as despicable Desi??
         members of parole boards allowing dangerous criminals free
         useless psychiatrists & welfare staff responsible for
              criminals being released

Additional reasons for meriting the death penalty would include:
         any spreader of any disease,including STD - this would
                obviously  include most faggots
        white collar criminals causing losses of more than 100,000
                dollars  (just ask senior citizens who have been swindled,
                how they would   exterminate those who preyed upon them!!)


Some popular methods for extermination of such vermin would include:

         crucifixion, as recommended by intphase
         vivisection
         medical experiments without anaesthetic
         target practice for police and military
         beheading
         hanging
         barbecueing by electrocution
         drawing & quartering

Additional methods of execution have been suggested, such as:
	guillotining, very popular in France
	flaying alive until dead
	stoning to death - popular in some jurisdictions

More suggestions for both categories are invited.




>>If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
>>then visit  www.freedomsite.org

>>Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

>>"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
>>is a revolutionary act." 
>>(George Orwell)

>>David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

>>"All truth passes through three stages. 
>>First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
>>and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
>>(Arthur Schopenhauer)
>
>>"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
>>but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
>>falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
>>they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
>>against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  
>
>>"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
>>acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
>>and impossible to ignore."
>>--John Bryant

>>For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
>>JEW-WATCH:
>>http://www.jewwatch.com

>>Or, other useful websites include:
>>ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
>>IHR - www.ihr.org
>>OSTARA - www.ostara.org
>>PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
>>Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
>>AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
>>THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
>>    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
>>    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

>>Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
>>They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

>>They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
>>and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

>>As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
>>victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
>>of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
>>May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.


>>>On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:27:02 -0600, "Robert Sveinson"
>>> wrote:
>>>>"Roedy Green"  wrote in message
>>>>news:81ptr0pj2ibnkktvdlh3ngrr09jgjih5d9@4ax.com...
>>>>> The Iraqis are hopelessly outgunned, yet to everyone's surprise that
>>>>> tiny country has held the biggest military in the world at bay.

>>>>> One of their most successful techniques has been beheadings, and
>>>>> releasing videos. This creates maximum horror with minimal loss of
>>>>> life.

>>>>> I think they could improve on the productions to make clear they are
>>>>> in retaliation.

>>>>> So I think the next beheading video should be spliced or split screen
>>>>> with shots of dozens of people Americans have beheaded with their
>>>>> bombs and machine gun fire.

>>>>> I think they should branch out from beheadings, partly because
>>>>> beheadings are too unreal.  They need something the man in the street
>>>>> can more relate to.

>>>>> I suggest, removing fingernails and toenails, removing or splitting
>>>>> the penis, crushing the testicles in a vice, gouching out an eye with
>>>>> a popsicle stick, allowing rats to nibble, nails through the hands and
>>>>> feet, throwing darts at a target painted on the stomach, rubbing
>>>>> rotting dead baby corpse goo over Americans stretched naked and then
>>>>> slashing with knives to create gangrenous infections to be
>>>>> photographed in stop motion, squeezing lemon juice into wounds.

>>>>> Play with common phobias, e.g. spiders, snakes, scorpions, rats,
>>>>> heights. E.g. video falling to death from a tall building with cameras
>>>>> situated at top, bottom and attached to the victim.

>>>>> Since Bush started the sexual abuse, and condones child rape, how
>>>>> about killing a man with ever larger things shoved up his ass, pounded
>>>>> home with a sledgehammer till he splits like a watermelon.

>>>>> Of course any such violence must be justified by showing video of at
>>>>> least a dozen instances of Americans doing something similar first.

>>>>And some MORAL ameriKKKan multi-national
>>>>could be the "Prime Sponsor"!

>>>>> "Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been witnessed.
>>>>> Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor of Hitler
>>>>> nor of Mussolini."
>>>>> ~ Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament's human rights commission
>>>>>   on Bush's atrocities in the Iraq war.

>>>>> Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
>>>>> See http://mindprod.com/iraq.html photos of Bush's war crimes



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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:04:49 -0400, "El Conquistador" 
wrote:

>'Misuse of Canada's identity' questioned in Israeli spy operation

>Stewart Bell
>National Post

>A SENIOR Cabinet official questioned the head of Israel's security service 
>about allegations Israeli undercover agents posed as Canadians during an 
>operation to assassinate a Palestinian terrorist leader, newly released 
>documents show.

>Although Ottawa has said publicly it was convinced all along the spy claims 
>were false, internal documents obtained yesterday show the matter has 
>continued to concern the government and has been the subject of 
>behind-the-scenes diplomacy.

>In a confidential report, officials said they were concerned about "other 
>countries' intelligence services misusing Canada's identity" and that "such 
>misuse endangers Canadians travelling around the world and undermines the 
>integrity of Canadian passports."

>Ronald Bilodeau, the Privy Council Office security and intelligence 
>co-ordinator and Cabinet assistant secretary, met on Oct. 1 with the head of 
>the Israeli Security Agency, whose spies allegedly used false Canadian 
>identities during the operation in Gaza.

>"The ISA is reported to have recently had its agents pose as Canadians to 
>lure a Palestinian, 22-year-old Akram Zatmeh, into informing on Intifada 
>leaders in return for promises of resettlement in Canada," according to a 
>"Secret: Canadian Eyes Only" memo prepared for the meeting.

>  The documents do not describe the response of the ISA chief, who reports 
>directly to Ariel Sharon, the Israeli Prime Minister. Israel has denied the 
>claims. But the papers show Ottawa was worried about being linked to a spy 
>operation and a botched assassination that killed 14 bystanders, nine of 
>them children.

>The allegations surfaced in August, when Mr. Zatmeh publicly detailed how he 
>was lured into becoming an Israeli informant by agents who told him they 
>were Canadians and could help him immigrate. Mr. Zatmeh said he was 
>recruited by three "Canadian" agents who brought him to the Canadian embassy 
>in Tel Aviv before coercing him into helping them, with doctored photos that 
>showed him with naked women.

>On July 23, Mr. Zatmeh helped Israeli agents pinpoint the location of Sheik 
>Salah Shehadeh, a Hamas leader. Twenty minutes later, an Israeli F-16 fired 
>a one-tonne missile at the building, killing not only the sheik but also 
>more than a dozen bystanders.

>Mr. Zatmeh was later arrested as a collaborator and is facing a possible 
>death sentence.

>"Our initial concern ... was that the press articles could be seen by some 
>as alleging Canadian involvement with Israel in the assassination of Sheik 
>Salah Shehadeh," according to an Aug. 29 internal government memo. "Canada 
>has nothing to do with this or with any other purported Israeli operation."

>After the Post learned of the informant's allegations, officials told the 
>newspaper on Sept. 4 they were satisfied the claims were false. However, 
>hours after the Post report on Sept. 5, John McNee, assistant deputy 
>minister for Africa and the Mideast, discussed the matter with Haim Divon, 
>Israel's ambassador to Canada.




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As the header says, Toronto is now finally doing something about local
gangs.

Why was nothing done while Mike Boyd was Deputy police chief in
Toronto?

Why is nothing being done about the gangs in Edmonton, now that the
same Mike Boyd is their new chief of crooked police?

Interested minds are wondering about the correlationship!
Why no anti-gang activity by the cops while Mike Boyd was 
running the show?

Sharx, and Top Poster, comments?



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If you have branches in Alberta, give contact info.

Your phone number below is not working.

On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 10:49:39 -0700, lonleygeorge 
wrote:

>Hello Everyone,
>
>The Ontario election is fast approaching and the Family Coalition
>Party needs candidates.
>
>If you are over 18 and are pro-life and pro-traditional marriage, you
>could be our candidate.
>
>The party will pay the $200 deposit. All you need to do is help get
>25-40 signatures, sign a pledge and sign a questionnaire.
>
>We do not expect you to spend any of your own money. So if you think
>you'd like to be a candidate, please call the party office at: 1 888
>613 2645.
>
>Say that Wayne Cook has sent you!
>
>Wayne Cook
>waynevcook@rogers.com



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It seems that even in Alberta, Harpo will lose many seats!

Guess all his scams, and his refusal to support seniors, will cost him the
election, leaving a minority Liberal government!!



On 1 Sep 2006 02:12:02 -0700, in can.politics "auldbobpeffers@aol.com"
 wrote:

Canada government slips in key battleground: poll

OTTAWA (Reuters) - The decision by Canada's minority Conservative
government to take a strongly pro-Israel stance is costing the party
support in the influential French-speaking province of Quebec,
according to a poll published on Thursday.

A CROP survey for La Presse newspaper put support for the federal
Conservatives at 24 percent, down from 33 percent from the firm's last
poll in late June. The separatist Bloc Quebecois was at 36 percent, up
six points.

The poll -- the latest in a line of surveys showing lackluster support
for the Conservative government -- is likely to dent speculation of a
possible election later this year.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper's Conservatives control only 125 of the
308 seats in Parliament and need to boost support in Quebec if he is to
stand any chance of winning a majority in the next election. The
Conservatives won 10 of Quebec's 75 seats in the January 23 vote.

CROP vice-president Claude Gauthier said it was clear that people in
Quebec -- one of the more left-leaning provinces -- disliked Harper's
backing for Israeli attacks against Lebanon.

As well, many were outraged when eight members of a Montreal family on
holiday in Lebanon were killed by an Israeli bombardment.

"Quebecers blame the Conservatives for giving almost unconditional
support to one side from the very beginning," Gauthier told the
newspaper. Harper said at the start of the assault that the Israeli
response was measured.

"Quebecers saw that as a lack of compassion, given what was happening
to Lebanese civilians," said Gauthier, adding that some people had also
been upset by recent big military spending announcements and Harper's
decision to skip a major        AIDS conference in Toronto earlier this
month.

The opposition Liberals -- who lost the election amid a Quebec kickback
scandal -- rose four points to 21 percent.

Many political observers doubt Harper will call an election unless
national support for the party hits 40 percent. The Conservatives are
currently hovering around 36 percent, the same level they achieved in
the January election.

Separately, CROP said support for Quebec's provincial Liberal
government was unchanged at 32 percent while the separatist Parti
Quebecois gained two points to 37 percent.

Quebec Premier Jean Charest, who won power in 2003, is expected to call
an election within the next year. Gauthier said the Liberals would need
to be at least five points ahead of the Parti Quebecois to stand a
chance of retaining power.

The Parti Quebecois says that if it wins the next election, it will
quickly hold another referendum on independence. Similar province-wide
polls failed in 1980 and 1995.

The CROP poll of 1,000 people was carried out from August 17 to 28 and
is considered accurate to within three percentage points, 19 times out
of 20.



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On 1 Mar 2007 16:33:32 -0800, "Venceremos"  wrote:

>The Accusations

>     Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:

>     Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the
>     British Medical Research Council, was one of the few
>     escapees from Auschwitz. In his memoirs published in
>     February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald, he wrote:

>     I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that -
>     I accuse certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly
>     deeds of the war.

>     While I was prisoner number 44070 at Auschwitz - the number is still
>     on my arm

>     Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S.
>     uniform and took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends.

>     Nor did the sordid bargaining end there.

>     Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this
>     little fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom
>     when Germany collapsed, to set himself up in the Argentine...
>     (Ben Hecht, Perfidy, pp 261-2)

>     These accusations are confirmed by the "Eichmann Confessions"
>     published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:

>     "I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the
>     commander stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off
>     in a lightning operation, I wanted to set an example for
>     future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to Himmler's
>     directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>     political officials in Budapest...Among them, Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>     authorized representative of the Zionist Movement.

>     This Dr. Kastner was a young man about my age, an ice-cold
>     lawyer and a fanatical Zionist. He agreed to help keep the
>     Jews from resisting deportation - and even keep order in the
>     collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a few
>     hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to
>     Palestine. It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the
>     camps, the price...was not too high for me.

>     "...We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me,
>     Kastner smoked cigarets as though he were in a coffeehouse.
>     While we talked he would smoke one aromatic cigaret after
>     another, taking them from a silver case and lighting them
>     with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>     he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.

>     "Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for
>     a select group of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Palestune...

>     "As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity
>     between our attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these
>     immensely idealistic Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner
>     would have sacrificed a thousand or a hundred thousand of his
>     blood to achieve his political goal...
>     'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have
>     this group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great
>     service by helping keep the deportation camps peaceful, I
>     would let his groups escape. After all, I was not
>     concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>     That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner."
>     (Hecht, Ibid., pp.260-61)

>     Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false,
>     do not relate merely to "the purchase of Jewish lives for
>     money and military equipment."

>     Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>     According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie.
>     When Malchiel Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli
>     citizen published these accusations against Kastner, the
>     Israeli Government did rather more  than demand that his
>     views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent Zionist
>     official Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of
>     Trade and Industry) was involved, the Attorney General
>     of the State of Israel prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>     -88-

KASTNER Case=ZYD ACCOMPLICE WITH NAZIS [88]

Now there are at least another 50 documented cases like KASTNER, 
and RUMKOWSKI!!
The ZHIDS COLLABORATED WITH NAZIS!!

Even the notorious Simon WIESENTHAL is proven to have been a nazi 
GESTAPO COLLABORATOR!!


On 24 Oct 2004 17:22:19 -0000, DerStuermer  wrote:

>Mamzer Kenneth McVay,SOBC, the well-known fag and mamser in Canada,
>Fag McVay of Vancouver, convicted of child molesting
>and car theft in California and Oregon, and still
>unemployed  gas pump boy, mastermind of the
>Canadian branch of NAMBLA, and now finally dying as a
>diseased AIDS-spreader,wants all to know about all
>his fellow ZHID criminals and perverts.
>Here is the latest.......

>From: Elias Davidsson (edavid@itn.is)
>Subject: Zionism. The Kastner case (1/2)
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
>Date: 1997/07/12

>The Kastner Case
>-----------------

>Introduction

>Rather than answer every complaint in the same detail, we are taking
>up the issue which the VJBD has declared to be the most offensive of all
>and will show that on this question 'The documentation available is
>overwhelming and its message is thundering", just as Palestine Speaks
>claimed in one of the extracts complained about by the VJBD.

>Since the accusation of direct Zionist cooperation and assistance in
>the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Jewish people, and the
>accusation that this flowed logically from shared aims, are clearly the
>most 'extreme' and 'offensive' accusations of Nazi-Zionist collaboration
>broadcast on 3CR programs, we will deal with this first, and in greater detail.

>Since the 'Kastner case' is the subject of most of the broadcasts
>concerning collaboration which have been specifically complained
>about, we shall go into this in greatest detail, and have put some books
>in as evidence about it. Having answered the VJBD where its case appears
>strongest, and on the points to which it has given greatest emphasis,we
>hope it may become apparent to the Tribunal that things are not quite
>what they may have appeared before this inquiry began.

>The most notorious case of Nazi-Zionist collaboration is that
>involving Rudolf Kastner.

>Most Jewish people in Australia have never heard of Rudolf Kastner.
>Those who have, are generally under the impression that there is some
>'controversy' about negotiations he undertook for 'the purchase of
>Jewish lives for money and military equipment', but that he was 'fully
>rehabilitated' by the Supreme Court of Israel.

>That is exactly the line taken by Dr. John Foster, the Victorian
>Jewish Board of Deputies expert witness, in his evidence condemning
>3CR for anti-semitism.

>It is quite clear from this evidence, that Dr. Foster does not know
>anything at all about the Kastner case, since he does not even know
>what Kastner was accused of.

>This may not be his fault however, since one cannot read an accurate
>account of the Kastner case in any of the widely available works dealing
>with the Holocaust, either in bookshops or libraries. Apart from 3CR, the
>suppression of information has been so complete, that even an expert
>like Dr. Foster, specifically asked to give evidence on the matter, has
>been unable to find out what it is all about.
>
>The Accusations
>----------------
>Briefly, the accusations against Kastner are as follows:
>
>"Dr. Rudolf Verba, a Doctor of Science now serving at the British
>Medical Research Council, was one of the few escapees from Auschwitz.
>In his memoirs published in February, 1961, in the London Daily Herald,
>he wrote:
>
>'I am a Jew. In spite of that - indeed because of that - I accuse
>certain Jewish leaders of one of the most ghastly deeds of the war.
>
>This small group of quislings knew what was happening to their
>brethren in Hitler's gas chambers and bought their their own lives with
>the price of silence. Among them was Dr. Kastner, leader of the council
>which spoke for all Jews in Hungary. While I was prisoner number 44070 at
>Auschwitz - the number is still on my arm - I compiled careful statistics
>of the exterminations...I took these terrible statistics with me when I
>escaped in 1944 and I was able to give Hungarian Zionist leaders three weeks
>notice that Eichmann planned to send a million of their Jews to his gas
>chambers...Kastner went to Eichmann and told him, 'I know of your
>plans; spare some Jews of my choice and I shall keep quiet.'
>
>Eichmann not only agreed, but dressed Kastner up in S.S. uniform and
>took him to Belsen to trace some of his friends. Nor did the sordid
>bargaining end there.
>
>Kastner paid Eichmann several thousand dollars. With this little
>fortune, Eichmann was able to buy his way to freedom when Germany collapsed,
>to set himself up in the Argentine..."(Ben Hecht, op.cit. pp261-2)
>
>These accusations are confirmed by the 'Eichmann Confessions'
>published in Life magazine, 28 November and 5 December 1960:
>
>"I resolved to show how well a job could be done when the commander
>stands 100% behind it. By shipping the Jews off in a lightning operation,
>I wanted to set an example for future campaigns elsewhere...In obedience to
>Himmler's directive I now concentrated on negotiations with the Jewish
>political officials in Budapest...Among them Dr. Rudolph Kastner,
>authorized representative of the Zionist Movement. This Dr. Kastner
>was a young man about my age, an ice-cold lawyer and a fanatical Zionist.
>He agreed to help keep the Jews from resisting deportation - and even
>keep order in the collection camps - if I could close my eyes and let a
>few hundred or a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine.
>It was a good bargain. For keeping order in the camps, the price...was
>not too high for me.
>
>.We trusted each other perfectly. When he was with me, Kastner smoke
>cigarets as though he was in a coffeehouse. While we talked he would
>smoke one aromatic cigaret after another, taking them from a silver case
>and lighting them with a silver lighter. With his great polish and reserve
>he would have made an ideal Gestapo officer himself.
>
>Dr. Kastner's main concern was to make it possible for a select group
>of Hungarian Jews to emigrate to Israel...
>
>As a matter of fact, there was a very strong similarity between our
>attitudes in the S.S. and the viewpoint of these immensely idealistic
>Zionist leaders....I believe that Kastner would have sacrificed a
>thousand or a hundred thousand of his blood to achieve his political
>goal...'You can have the others', he would say, 'but let me have this
>group here'. And because Kastner rendered us a great service by helping
>keep the deportation camps peaceful, I would let his groups escape.
>After all, I was not concerned with small groups of a thousand or so Jews...
>That was the 'gentleman's agreement' I had with Kastner" (Hecht, ibid, p.26ö-61)
>
>Quite clearly these accusations, whether true or false, do not relate
>merely to 'the purchase of Jewish lives for money and military
>equipment', as Dr. Foster imagines, and the term 'collaboration' is the term
>that would apply. It seems unlikely that if Dr. Foster had known what the
>accusation actually was, he would have condemned 3CR saying 'In these
>circumstances, to talk of collaboration is malicious and absurd'.
>
>Are the accusations against Kastner true?
>
>According to the Government of Israel, they are a lie. When Malchiel
>Greenwald, a strongly pro-Zionist Israeli citizen published these
>accusations against Kastner, the Israeli Government did rather more
>than demand that his views should not be broadcast. Because a prominent
>Zionist official (Dr. Kastner was a spokesman for the Ministry of Trade and
>Industry) was involved, the Attorney General of the State of Israel
>prosecuted Greenwald for criminal libel.
>
>The Verdict
>------------
>Let the verdict of Judge Benjamin Halevi in Israel's District Court of
>Jerusalem speak for itself, given in criminal case No. 124 of 1953.
>The Attorney General v. Malchiel Greenwald. This material should be
>studied carefully, since a substantial extract from it, broadcast on 3CR,
>has been complained about by the VJBD as allegedly offensive to the Jewish
>community, likely to promote anti-semitism, likely to promote racism,
>in bad taste and contrary to common sense.
>
>It is the actual words used that are the subject of the Board's
>complaint, not the manner of their representation by 3CR. Presumably
>the Board itself was not aware just whose words they were when it made
>its' complaint, which shows how complete suppression of information can
>backfire on the censors themselves.
>
>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:
>
>"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>the Jews.
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>of Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>hampering the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their community
>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish Council
>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing the
>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>catastrophe.
>
>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>
>The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>expensively if honorably guided.
>
>Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.
>
>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>task easier.
>
>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>chiefs.
>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>underground.
>
>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>
>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>
>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>annihilation.
>
>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>
>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the majority
>of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in the
>agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division of
>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was that
>Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other camp
>and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>from the book of the living.
>
>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>
>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>to evade this truth.
>
>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated quickly
>to another."
>
>(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>General
>v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).
>
>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>
>"From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>
>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>Jews.
>
>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>criminals.
>
>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>
>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.
>
>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>
>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler". (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi continues:
>
>"Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>when he denied he had interceded in Becher's hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>
>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>
>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.
>
>The lies in the contents of Kastner's affidavit, the lies in his
>testimony concerning the document, and Kastner's knowing participation in the
>activities of Nazi war criminals, and his participation in the last
>minute fake rescue activities - all these combine to show one overwhelming
>truth - that this affidavit was not given in good faith.
>
>Kastner knew well, as he himself testified, that Becher had never
>stood up against the stream of Jewish extermination, as Kastner has
>declared in the affidavit.
>
>The aims of Becher and his superior, Himmler, were not to save Jews
>but to serve the Nazi regime with full compliance. These is not truth
>and no good faith in Kastner's testimony, 'I never doubted for one moment
>the good intention of good Becher'.
>
>It is clear that the positive recommandation by Kastner, not only in
>his own name but also in the name of the Jewish Agency and the Jewish
>World Congress was of decisive importance for Becher. Kastner did not
>exaggerate when he said that Becher was released by the Allies because
>of his personal intervention. The lies in the affidavit of Kastner and the
>contradictions and various pretexts, which were proven to be lies, were
>sufficient to annul the value of his statements and to prove that there
>was no good faith in his testimony in favor of this German war criminal.
>Kastner's affidavit in favor of Becher was a willfully false affidavit
>given in favor of a war criminal to save him from trial and punishment
>in Nuremberg.
>
>Therefore, the defendant, Malchiel Greenwald, was correct in his
>accusations against Rudolf Kastner in the first, second and fourth of
>his statements." (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi's verdict found Malchiel Greenwald generally innocent of
>libel against Kastner, but fined him one Israeli pound for the one unproven
>accusation - that Kastner had actually collected money from his Nazi
>partners for his aide to their slaughter program. The judge also
>ordered the Government of Israel to pay Greenwald two hundred Israeli
>pounds as court costs.
>
>In fairness to Kastner it should me mentioned that as well as having
>been unpaid, it was never established that he ever wore S.S. uniform.
>
>Nevertheless, this verdict, and the evidence on which it was based,
>completely establishes the truth of everything said on 3CR about the
>matter.
>
>If the story ended there, it would only prove conclusively that the
>individual Kastner was a collaborator and the Israeli Government had
>attempted to defend him, although facts brought out in the trial
>pointed to much more than that.
>
>But the story does not end there.
>
>The Reaction
>-------------
>Public opinion in Israel was almost unanimous in demanding that
>Kastner and his associates should be put on trial. Remember that up to
>now it was Kastner's accuser who was on trial.
>
>The Communist Party newspaper Kol Ha'am (Voice of the People) wrote:
>
>"All those whose relatives were butchered by the Germans in Hungary
>know now clearly that Jewish hands helped the mass murder" (23 June 1955)
>
>In the authoritative Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz, the leading political
>journalist, Dr. Moshe Keren wrote:
>
>"Kastner must be brought to trial as a Nazi collaborator. And at this
>trial, Kastner should defend himself as a private citizen, and not be
>defended by the Israeli Government..." (14 July 1955).
>
>*Haboker*, the pro-Government General Zionist party paper stated:
>
>"The public wants to know the real facts about Kastner, and not about
>him alone. The only way to find out the truth is to put all the Rescue
>Committee people on trial and give them a chance to offer their
>defense." (23 June 1955)
>
>But public opinion was not quite unanimous. The problem with bringing
>Kastner and his associates to trial was that his associates were the
>Government of Israel.
>
>As the evening paper *Yedi'ot Aharonot* said:
>
>"If Kastner is brought to trial the entire government faces a total
>political and national collapse - as a result of what such a trial may
> disclose." (23 June 1955)
>
>Accordingly, the Government of Israel did not put Kastner on trial,
>instead it filed an appeal against the acquittal of Greenwald for criminal
>libel.
>
>As Dr. Karlebach wrote in Israel's largest evening newspaper,
>*Ma'ariv*:
>
>"What is going on here? The Attorney General has to mobilize all the
>government power, appear himself in court, to justify and defend
>collaboration with Himmler! And in order to defend a quisling, the
>government must drag through the streets one of the grimmest stories
>of our history!
>
>At 11 P.M. the verdict was given. At 11 A.M. next morning the
>government announces the defense of Kastner will be renewed - an appeal filed.
>What exemplary expediency! Since when does this government possess such
>lawyer-genius who can weigh in one night the legal chances of an
>appeal on a detailed, complex verdict of three hundred pages?! (24 June 1955)
>
>At the appeal hearings before the Supreme Court, the Attorney General
>of Israel, Chaim Cohen, explained clearly why the Government of Israel
>was defending Kastner so strongly:  "The man Kastner does not stand here
>as a private individual. He was a recognized representative, official or
>non-official of the Jewish National Institutes in Palestine and of the
>Zionist Executive; and I come here in this court to defend the
>representative of our national institutions." (Hecht, p. 268)
>
>The truth of this statement cannot be denied. Kastner's collaboration
>was not that of an individual. It was the collaboration of the Zionist
>leadership.
>
>So far, it has only been established that the Government of Israel
>continued to support a Nazi collaborator after the facts about his
>collaboration had been conclusively established in an Israeli court.
>But the story gets worse.
>
>The Supreme Court of Israel unanimously found that Becher was indeed a
>Nazi war criminal and that Kastner had without justification, and in the
>name of the Jewish Agency, helped Becher to escape justice. On this point
>Greenwald was acquitted of libel and Kastner was not 'fully rehabilitated'.
>
>The Supreme Court also accepted the FACTS established in the lower
>court - that Kastner DELIBERATELY concealed the truth about Auschwitz from the
>majority of Hungarian Jews in exchange for Nazi permission to take a
>thousand or so to Palestine. Again, Kastner was far from being 'fully
>rehabilitated'.
>
>The Majority Judgement
>-------------------------
>But now comes the really nasty bit. After unanimously acknowledging
>these FACTS, the Supreme Court of Israel, by a majority of three to two,
>found that Kastner's actions were MORALLY JUSTIFIABLE and convicted
>Greenwald of criminal libel for calling this 'collaboration'.
>
>In saying that 3CR broadcasts concealed the fact that Kastner had been
>fully rehabilitated by the Israeli Supreme Court, Dr. Foster is
>totally missing the point.
>
>Kastner's actions only proved that HE was a Nazi collaborator. It is
>the defense of these actions by the Government and Courts of Israel that
>prove conclusively that ZIONISM approves of Nazi collaboration.
>
>The majority of the Supreme Court of Israel did not REHABILITATE
>Kastner.
>They JOINED him.
>
>Let us read from the majority judgement of Supreme Court Judge Shlomo
>Chesin:
>
>"...What point was there in telling the people boarding the trains in
>Kluj, people struck by fate and persecuted, as to what awaits them at the
>end of their journey...Kastner spoke in detail of the situation, saying,
>'The Hungarian Jew was a branch which long ago dried up on the tree'. This
>vivid description coincides with the testimony of another witness about the
>Hungarian Jews, 'This was a big Jewish community in Hungary, without any
>ideological Jewish backbone' (Moshe Shweiger, a Kastner aide in Budapest,
>protocol 465).
>
>I fully agree with my friend, Judge Agranot, when he states that, 'The
>Jews of Hungary, including those in the countryside, were not capable,
>neither physically nor mentally, to carry out resistance operations with force
>against the deportation scheme'...From this point of view no rescue
>achievement could have resulted by disclosing the Auschwitz news to
>the Jewish leaders there, and this...is a consideration which on can
>properly conclude that Kastner had in front of his eyes.
>
>.And I take one more step. I am certain that the silence of Kastner
>when he arrived in Kluj was premeditated and calculated and did not result
>from his great dispair because of the helplessness of the Jewish community.
>Even then, I say, this is still not considered willful collaboration and
>assistance in the extermination, because all the signs indicate that
>Kastner's efforts were aimed at rescue and rescue on a big scale...And
>towards the end I take one last step. In doing so I go very far and
>say that even if Kastner ordered himself to keep silent knowingly, in
>submission to the strong will of the Nazis, in order to save a few
>Jews from Hell - this is still no proof that he stained his hands by
>collaborating with the enemies of his people and carrying out their
>plan to exterminate most of the Jewish community in Hungary.
>
>Even if, through these activities of his - or rather, his omission -
>the extermination became easier. And as to the moral issue, the question
>is not whether a man is allowed to kill many in order to save a few, or
>vice-versa. The question is altogether in another sphere and should be
>defined as follows: A man is aware that a whole community is awaiting
>its doom. He is allowed to make efforts to save a few, although part of
>his efforts involve concealment of truth from the many or should he
>disclose the truth to many though it is his best opinion that this way
>everybody will perish. I think that the answer is clear. What good will the
>blood of the few bring if everybody is to perish?...As I said, I am not arguing
>with the basic factual findings of the learned President of the Jewish
>District Court (Judge Halevi) but it seems to me, with all due respect, that
>his findings do not, as of necessity, demand the conclusion he has arrived
>at.
>That is to say, collaboration on the part of Kastner in the extermination
>of the Jews. And that they better coincide with bad leadership both
>from a moral and public point of view...
>
>In my opinion, one can say outright that if you find out that Kastner
>collaborated with the enemy because he did not disclose to the people
>who boarded the trains in Kluj that they were being led to extermination,
>one has to put on trial today Danzig, Herman, Hanzi, Brand, Revis and
>Marton, and many more leaders and half-leaders who gagged themselves in an
>hour of crisis and did not inform others of what was known to them and did not
>warn and did not cry out of the coming danger....
>
>Because of all this I cannot confirm the conclusion of the District Court
>with regard to the accusation that Greenwald has thrown on Kastner of
>collaboration with the Nazis in exterminating the Jewish people in
>Hungary during the last war." (Hecht, ibid, pp.270-2)
>
>In other words, the Court approved of Kastner's contempt for the
>Hungarian Jews and could not allow him to be condemned for doing exactly what
>many other Zionist leaders had half-leaders did - concealing their
>knowledge of the Nazi extermination plans so that Jews would board the trains to
>Auschwitz peacefully while their Zionist 'leaders' boarded a different
>train for Palestine.
>
>The Minority Judgement
>--------------------------
>It cannot be said that ALL top Zionists leaders actively approved of
>Nazi collaboration in this way. Indeed the most precise answer to this
>sickening judgement of Judge Chesin is provided in the minority judgement of
>Supreme Court Judge Moshe Silberg:
>
>"I do not say that he was the only man who possessed information among
>the leaders. It is quite possible that somebody else as well does not have
>a clear conscience with regards to this concealment. But we are dealing
>here with the guilt of Kastner and we do not have to make judgements on the
>guilt of others....
>
>The declaration of the learned Attorney General therefore shrinks into
>an opinion....'Kastner was convinced and believed that there was no ray
>of hope for the Jews of Hungary, almost for none of them, and as he, as a
>result of his personal dispair, did not disclose the secret of the
>extermination in order not to endanger or frustrate the rescue of the
>few - therefore he acted in good faith and should not be accused of
>collaborating with the Nazis in expediting the extermination of the Jews,
>even though, in fact, he brought about its result.'
>
>I am compelled to state that it is very difficult for me to conceive
>such an intention. Is this good faith? Can a single man, even in
>cooperation with some of his friends, yield to despair on behalf and
>without the knowledge of 800,000 other people? This is, in my opinion, the
>decisive consideration in the problem facing us. The charge emanating from
>the testimony of the witnesses against Kastner is that had they known of
>the Auschwitz secret, then thousands or tens of thousands would have been
>able to save their lives by local, partial, specific or indirect rescue
>operations like local revolts, resistance, escapes, hidings,
>concealment of children with Gentiles, forging of documents, ransom money,
>bribery, etc - and when this is the case and when one deals with many hundreds
>of thousands, how does a human being, a mortal, reject with complete
>certainty and with an extreme 'no' the efficiency of all the many and varied
>rescue ways? How can he examine the tens of thousands of possibilities? Does
>he decide instead of God? Indeed, he who can act with such a usurpation
>of the last hope of hundreds of thousands is not entitled to claim good faith
>as his defense. The penetrating question quo warrento is a good answer to
>a claim of such good faith...
>
>If the superintendent of a big hospital lets thousands of sick people
>die so that he may devote himself to the sure rescue of one soul, he will
>come out guilty, at least morally, even if it is proven that he as an
>individual erroneously thought that there was no hope of saving the other
>patients. He is a collaborator with the angel of death.
>
>Either a complete atrophy of the soul or a blind involvement with
>complete loss of senses and proportion in his small but personal rescue
>operation could bring a man to such a gigantic, hazardous play.
>
>And if all this is not enough to annul the claim of good faith which
>was put before us on behalf of Kastner by the Attorney General, then
>Kastner himself comes and annuls it altogether. Not only did he never make
>this claim, but his own words prove the contrary. He writes in his report
>to the Jewish Agency that the Committee sent emissaries to many ghettos in
>the countryside and pleaded with them to organize escapes and to refuse to
>board the trains. And though the story of these pleadings is untrue,
>and the silence of Kastner in Kluj is proven, the very uttering of these
>statements entirely contradicts the claim that Kastner had concealed
>the news about the fate of the ghetto inmates in good faith and only as a
>result of his complete despairing of the chances of escaping or
>resisting the Germans. You can not claim at the same time helplessness and
>activity.
>Anyway, such a claim is not convincing...
>
>We can sum up with three facts:
>A. That the Nazis didn't want to have a great revolt - 'Second Warsaw'
>- nor small revolts, and their passion was to have the extermination
>machine working smoothly without resistance. This fact was known to Kastner
>from the best source - from Eichmann himself - And he had additional proofs
>of that when he witnessed all the illusionary and misleading tactics
>which were being taken by the Nazis from the first moment of occupation.
>B. That the most efficient means to paralyze the resistance with - or
>the escape of a victim is to conceal from him the plot of the coming
>murder.
>This fact is known to every man and one does not need any proof of
>evidence for this.
>C. That he, Kastner, in order to carry out the rescue plan for the few
>prominents, fulfilled knowingly and without good faith the said desire
>of the Nazis, thus expediting the work of exterminating the masses.
>
>And also the rescue of Becher by Kastner...He who is capable of
>rescuing this Becher from hanging proves that the atrocities of this great
>war criminal were not so horryfying or despicable in his eyes...I couldn't
>base the main guilt of Kastner on this fact had it been alone, but when it
>is attached even from afar to the whole scene of events it throws
>retroactive light on the whole affair and serves as a dozen proofs of our
>conclusion." (Supreme Court Judge, Moshe Silberg, 1957)
>
>Conclusion
>-----------
>If that had been the majority judgement, one could say that whatever
>their attitudes to the Arabs, and whatever their past behaviour might have
>been under pressure, the Zionist leadership today did not advocate
>collaboration with the Nazis.
>
>One could then at least understand the complaints by Mr. Bloch,
>President of the Victorian Jewish Board of Deputies, about the 'dragging in
>of alleged episodes in the history of Jewish/Nazi relationships'.
>
>But Judge Silberg's judgement was that of a minority.
>
>The Kastner case is therefore not an alleged episode in past history,
>being 'dragged in' to discredit an opponent.
>
>It is a continuing controversy in which the top Zionist leadership of
>Israel stand indicted of continuing to publicly defend collaboration
>with the Nazis in the extermination of Jews.
>
>Despite the unanimous finding of the Supreme Court of Israel that Kurt
>Becher was a major war criminal, the Jewish Agency (World Zionist
>Organization) refused to withdraw the fraudulent certificate Kastner
>gave on their behalf, which saved Becher from hanging, and allowed him to
>remain a free man in West Germany, the head of several corporations and with
>an estimated personal worth of $30 million.
>
>Becher has even used his certification as a 'good' SS officer to give
>evidence in support of his associates at other war crimes trials in
>West Germany.
>
>Since the prosecution, representing the Israeli Government agreed with
>the Supreme Court that Becher was a major war criminal, one can only
>presure that the Israeli Government did not want him put on trial for
>fear of what might come out.
>
>Likewise, none of Kastner's associates on the Zionist Relief and
>Rescue Committee or his bosses in the Jewish Agency have ever been put on
>trial as demanded by Israeli public opinion. Let alone the hundreds of
>'prominents' who helped Kastner to reassure the Hungarian Jews that they
>were going to Kenyermeze and not Auschwitz, in exchange for tickets on
>the one train that took them eventually to Palestine.
>
>As for Kastner himself, he will cause no further embarassment to the
>Zionist leadership with his undisputed claims that everything he did
>was approved by the Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) leadership
>in Palestine. He is, as Dr. Foster so delicately puts it, 'now dead'. Or
>putting it less delicately, on 3 March 1957 he was shot by Zeer
>Eckstein - immediately after the appeal hearings were concluded, and
>before the judgement 'rehabilitating' him was delivered. Eckstein was
>not a Hungarian avenger. He was a paid undercover agent of the Israeli
>secret service.
>(Hecht, ibid., p.208. Another 'fantastic allegation' no doubt; but
>admitted in court during the murder trial).
>
>Clearly this issue has a major indirect relevance to the Arab-Israeli
>dispute. Apart from countering Israel's cynical use of the holocaust
>as a propaganda weapon, it answers a very real concern that many people
>have about the State of Israel and the Jews. This concern is whether,
>if Jews had a State of their own during the holocaust many more could
>have been saved, and whether this is not an essential future consideration,
>at least as an insurance policy.
>
>The facts of the Kastner case show that the very existence of the
>Jewish Agency (World Zionist Organization) was an actual help to the Nazis
>and that more could have been saved if the Zionist movement had not
>existed.
>Having a State that approves of actions like those of Kastner for an
>insurance policy, is like using petro for a fire extinguisher.
>
>Zionism is not the answer to anti-semitism, but a cowardly proposal to
>run away from it. The only answer to anti-semitism is to fight back.
>
>We shall go on to prove this in detail.
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Subject: McVay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal Engaged in MONEY LAUNDERING & RICO - Repost
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On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 09:55:06 -0700, in can.general Frank Arthur
 wrote:

Mcvay/Nizkor & Harry Mazal/BB Engaged in Illegal MONEY LAUNDERING!
Proof!

Time for the Auditor-General of Canada to get the RCMP, and Interpol 
plus IRS and RICO onto McVay and his criminal money laundering
activities.

With Bnai Brith involved, and Harry Mazal in the USA, there must be
many, many millions of dollars for the tax authorities to recover,
including from those donors who supported all the criminality!!

Links to Doc Tavish posts which give proof to McVay's criminality and 
money being laundered:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.revisionism/msg/5e2047e8f5129b1a?fwc=1
Subject: Nizkor Project Director Kenneth McVay is a Mamzer Totally 
Owned and Controlled by Jews   v3.0   U0221
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 06:43:31 -0600
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http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/1d1cf50fcc74cca7?fwc=1
Subject: $50,000+ Not Reported to CCRA by The Nizkor Project? Nizkor 
Director Ken McVay is Lying About Funds
He Has Apparently NOT Reported to CCRA!! SAAF Reports are Further 
Proof! V5.0 U_0122
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Date: 22 Jan 2006 09:24:36 GMT
                  Two Companion pieces to the above:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.skeptic/msg/af974e5ec5085cce?fwc=1
(Archived locally as: McVaySlamDunked_A5 and McVaySlamDunked_A6)
Subject: SAAF San Antonio Area Foundation - Nizkor Fund  -- Some New 
Archives and The Same Funding Lie by
Ken McVay Exposed V3-0   T_0822
Message-ID: <3i9lg1p8efhpoda0r07vatjs87jmr1pfb3@4ax.com>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 04:32:17 GMT
------------------------------AND-------------------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/2a8fb4468666dd3?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay Caught Lying About San Antonio 
Connection! (Those Two U.S. Servers!)
V3.0  Updated Links T_0625
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Date: 26 Jun 2005 02:36:20 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/8a5017cb6fa55b20?fwc=1
Subject: Is NIZKOR.ORG Running a Self Serving Endowment Fund Scam? 
You All be the Judges!  V2-0
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Date: 26 Jun 2005 18:49:41 GMT
  (Actually the Nizkor Endowment Fund and the Nizkor Trust Fund 
should both be renamed the Kenneth McVay
Endowment Fund and the Kenneth McVay Trust Fund seeing how the Nizkor 
Project is a web site solely operated
by Kenneth McVay from a back room of his personal residence. McVay is 
the sole recipient and beneficiary of
those two "bogus" funds!)
  Why Ken Lewis was so vicious in his attacks against me in his 
defense of McVay; he's evidently getting some
of that laundered money too as indicated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a76ebe4ccbcb71ee?fwc=1
Subject: Ken Lewis' Famous Last Words RE Ken McVay's Address AND Ken 
Lewis Benefitting from McVay's
Funding Scams?   V2.0  T_1227
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Date: 28 Dec 2005 05:21:28 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/can.general/msg/a8a3cb995ab2448f?fwc=1
Subject: NIZKOR.ORG and B'nai Brith's Apparent Funding Kick Backs and 
Tax Scam  V2.0
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Date: 26 Jun 2005 03:06:12 GMT
  (The above details and documents the tax scheme invented and 
currently perpetrated by B'nai Brith Canada and
Kenneth McVay's Nizkor Project in which B'nai Brith launders exempt 
donations and passes them to McVay as
tax free even though Ken McVay is not legally allowed to receive 
exempt donations. This is more or less a similar
tax scheme which resulted in criminal prosecutions.)


If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant



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On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:45:36 -0600, VictorRCurious 
wrote:

>Huckster Don Gimble of the Edmonton Canada Economic Development 
>group is reported by the media for complaining that they, and others,
>are continually complaining worldwide, that Edmonton Canada is unsafe
>and filthy as well. 

>Apart from all the corruption in many city departments, which will
>discourage potential business investors.

>Gimble seems to want media and others to not publicise many well-known
>news srories, such as:

>Thugs of the Edmonton Police savagely beating 20 year-old Kristin
>Wilson to the concrete sidewalk.

>More thugs of the Edmonton police beating up the 66 year old lawyer,
>Mr. Fish, for photographing their crominal brutality.

>The Edmonton cops who shot a suspect in the BACK, 6 times!!

>The fact that the local cops have not arrested or charged the serial
>killer of 108 women sex trade workers!!
>People are now suspecting that this serial killer may in fact be a
>cnother crooked cop, or even a judge or lawyer, which is why the 
>cops do not want to find the murderer, because he is one their own!!

>The filth in the city is everywhere, not just from the filthy
>panhandlers begging for cash for their next "fix" in the downtown.

>Look at all the ice not removed by the city from city sidewalks,
>making them very unsafe.

>All the garbage on the rods and in city parks.

>And, never forget the hundreds of thousands of POTHOLES in city roads,
>caused by substandard city road construction, so that the favoured
>city contracting firms get repeat business each year, instead of doing
>the job properly the first time!!

>Corruption is in many departments, usually at the senior levels of
>management.
>
>In the Police department there are several cases worth discussion.
>City council stupidly agreed to give the police chief another $6.3
>MILLION,supposedly to hire another 27 cops.

>Since new recruits start at only $36,000 per man, who gets the extra
>$5.6 MILLION? The chief and his buddies?

>Quite apart from the fact that there was in fact a SAVING of more than
>$2 MILLION in payroll, because there are 30 overpaid senior cops reiring
>this year!! The deadwood cops get between $80,000-$140,000,total around $3
>MILLION, while the recruits get only $36K - total of $ONE MILLION!!

>Is this more graft and corruption?
>The Audtor for Edmonton MUST investigate!!


>The local chief cop is quoted in today's Sun as complaining about not
>being able to raise the pay for new cop recruits.

>The Chief is responsible for WASTING OVER $ONE MILLION,
>by having already 8 uselss hacks and flacks in the police BS section.
>To add insult to injury, they  hired hack #9, at an advertised base
>salary of over $95,000! That means a taxpayer cost of over A MILLION
>DOLLARS FOR THE BS SECTION OF THE POLICE!!

>That money could have been used to hire at least another 25 new
>recruits, who might have been helpful in catching criminals, when not
>sitting in coffee shops!

>Mind you, with what the chief and deputy chiefs get paid, why can't
>they themselves do their own press conferences, since they are 
>supposed to be fluent in English?

>To add insult to injury, the CPRN - Community Police Radio Network - 
>comprised of thousandfs of stupid local citizens, have to supply their
>own vehicles, gas,radio equipment and even pay for their uniforms, just to
>do  the work of the cops who should be hired instead of the useless BS/PR
>staff!!

>When the media must expose the fact that Deadmonton has an abysmal
>record for arresting murderers compared to other cities, taxpayers
>have a right to corelate the squandering of a $MILLION FOR HACKS & FLACKS, 
>instead of having proper police protection for our skyrocketing
>taxes!!

>No wonder this city needs the Guardian Angels.
>At least they do not waste millions of taxpayer dollars!

>This is the same cops who wasted $2.5 MILLION for a doghouse 
>for 10 mutts!!

>The city tax assessment department is another bunch of crooks!
>A private citizen had to take the city to tax court, and proved that a
>lawyer had had his mansion DELIBERATELY UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF A
>MILLION DOLLARS, for 8 years at $149,500, instead of $600,000!!

>And huckster Gimble does not want all the bad news publicised.

>Guess again Gimble. Now the flood of articles will be publicised even
>wider, all around the world.

Remember last fall, when the city tried to give away 4 round-trip tickets from
eastern Canada to Deadmonton, and people REFUSED FREE TICKETS 
FOR A HOLIDAY TO EDMONTON?



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Don Gimble of the Edmonton Capital Region Tourism Partnership is critical of
all the bad media reports, describing Deadmonton as "unsafe, filthy".

Guess he does not like the truth, as detailed by reputable government agencies
such as Statistics Canada. Statscan have had to report year after year, that
Edmonton is the MURDER CAPITAL OF CANADA!

That does not even include the 108 unsolved murders of the so-called sex trade
workers. Many now suspect this to be done by yet another rogue cop, which is
why the city police are not bothering to try and arrest the serial killer, who
may be one of them!!


On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:05:19 GMT, BenyaminJKramer
 wrote:

>In a banner headline story across page B1 of the Edmonton Journal for 21 July
>2006, Statistics Canada reports that Edmonton Canada is now the crime capital
>of Canada!

>The Edmonton region homicide/murder rate is documented at 4.3 per 100,000
>people, compared to only 2.0 for crime-ridden Toronto!!

>And, the Edmonton stats do not include bodies found outside the area, from the
>notorious Edmonton serial killer of female prostitiutes!

>And the city wonders why it is getting such bad international publicity,
>mainly caused by the crooked cops, who apparently can not even catch a cold,
>let alone the serial murderer, who is suspected by many, to be either a cop,
>judge or criminologist.



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On 30 Mar 2007 23:27:30 -0700, in can.politics "Antigone"
 wrote:

The media bosses who cover up heinous crimes committed by
fellow members of their tribe are the most evil of all. It
is an absolute DISASTER having a criminalistic ethnic gang,
called La Kosher Nostra by some, run the mass media in the
U.S. and other Western countries.

		~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
In the past I've talked about the breakdown of law and order in Russia
in the wake of communist rule. The communists -- which is to say, the
Jews -- sucked the country dry and then headed for greener pastures.
At least most of them did. Some Jews stayed behind to squeeze still
more blood out of the Russian people. In several reports we've looked
at the trade in White sex slaves centered in Israel. Jewish organized
crime gangs kidnap Russian and Ukrainian girls -- or in some cases
lure them to Israel with the promise of employment as secretaries or
housekeepers or nannies -- and then force them to work as sex slaves
in Jewish brothels.

Other Jewish crime gangs in Russia exploit Russian children for the
pedophile market around the world. I reported on October 7, 2000, the
breakup of a child pornography ring operating from Moscow and selling
videos of Russian children, some of them only two or three years old,
being raped, sexually tortured, and even murdered. There actually are
perverts who obtain sexual gratification from viewing such horrors,
and child pornography is big business. The child-porn videos coming
>from Moscow sell for hundreds or even thousands of dollars to
pedophiles in the West. The pornographers in Moscow obtain children
>from Russian orphanages by bribing corrupt administrators at the
orphanages, or they simply kidnap them from public parks or
playgrounds. My report of October 7, 2000, was based on the breakup of
one child-porn operation in Moscow after an investigation by Italian
police and postal officials of the shipment of videos from Russia to
pedophiles in Italy. In that report I quoted from a Reuters news
dispatch datelined Naples, Italy, September 27. I'll read you again
what I quoted in my report:

"Police said on Wednesday they had arrested eight Italians suspected
of belonging to a child-pornography ring that traded videos over the
Internet, including films of Russian children who were abused to
death. Police specializing in Internet crime told reporters that their
19-month investigation had given them enough information to begin
investigations into 1,700 people suspected of buying the material over
the Web. . . . They said three people in Moscow ran an operation to
kidnap children from orphanages, circuses, and public parks and film
them while they were forced to commit sexual acts. Police said they
had intercepted some 3,000 tapes and CDs and digital video discs of
child pornography, including some involving children only several
months old." -- end of quote --

These arrests were big