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On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:33:58 GMT, "Sharx35" 
wrote:
>Chief Instigator wrote:
>> Next installment and exposure of city tax department irregularities
>> was in  OPEN COURT, at the MGB Hearing,  March 27.

>> Again, was exposed for all to see, the evidence proving the City
>> allowed the lawyer to be underassessed  for his property at 13723 -
>> 93 St., by HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, for 8 years.

>Is that commercially zoned property, occupied by a residence?

It is a 2 story building, zoned DC5, with lawyer offices on main
floor, and rental apartments on upper floor.

HALF A MILLION DOLLARS each year - for 8 years!
His own papers filed declared the value to be $600,000, while his
friends in the city only assessed for $149,500!!

>> In retaliation, the city assessors incresed the assessment of the man
>> who exposed their graft by 4 TIMES THAT OF HIS NEIGHBOURS!!


>> Yes, the city website is operational in May and June, which allowed
>> some of us the opportunity to get the PROOF, which will be used in
>> the MGB city tax appeals, to PROVE GROSS OR CRIMINAL IRREGULARITIES
>> by the city tax staffers!

>> One must wonder, for whom is Merle Foresth working, since he seems to
>> not care about massive irregularities!!

>> It is now time, to not only FIRE those city employees involved in
>> this massive under-assessment for one of their buddies, but they
>> should also be PROSECUTED for their involvement in this massive FRAUD
>> on the city taxpayers!!

>> How many other friends of city tax department staff are also, still,
>> getting massive under-assessments, worth tens of thousands of dollars
>> per crook, apart from the well-known city lawyer exposed?

>> Time to clean house at city hall, and not just leave it up to
>> Grosvenor to take these crooks to court!!


>> From: arielv2@37.com the filthy crook, wanting everyone to know about
>> how corrupt is the cesspool called Deadmonton, wrote:
>> Newsgroups: edm.general,edm.politics
>> Subject: Re: APPEAL YOUR TAXES!!GRAFT,CORRUPTION in City Tax
>> Appeal-Lawyer Finally Got Taxes Quadrupled!! WHY BE JEWED?
>> Date: 1 Aug 2005 13:21:10 -0700

>> Why do you call our beuatiful city "deadmonton", ?
>> if you don't like it here why are you doing here? why don't you go
>> back to the rat hole you came from (england or whatever hellhole you're
>> from). stop polluting our charming city with your stinking existance. a
>> bullet thru your old and rotten head will be a great solution to your not
>> liking our city. drop dead you fucking nazi!


>> On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 09:12:18 -0600, George
>>  wrote:

>>> If your city tax assessment has increased more than the 2.4%
>>> inflation certified by StatsCan, then perhaps you also are a victim
>>> of the crooks running Deadmonton?!!

>>> If you feel you are being overcharged, then do what you are entitled
>>> to do - FILE AN APPEAL!!

>>> The odds are in your favour, since more than 80% of appeals against
>>> the City, win!!

>>> Checking the website for this year's assessments, it seems that the
>>> city of Edmonton finally obeyed the ARB,regarding the dramatically
>>> UNDERASSESSED property owned by a city liar/lawyer!.
>>> The value now is $651,000, up from the ridiculous $149,500!!!

>>> If not CORRUPTION, then at least favouritism, when property
>>> UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF MILLION DOLLARS!!

>>> Rumour has it that the city tax assessor responsible, is no longer
>>> employed by the city??
>>> Why should a private citizen have to take the City to Court, just to
>>> force the city to do a proper job, for which some slimeball is
>>> getting overpaid?


>>> From: heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb)
>>> Newsgroups:
>>> edm.general,edm.politics,ab.general,ab.politics,can.general Subject:
>>> Re: Graft,Corruption Claimed in City Tax Appeal!! LAWYER TO GET
>>> TAXES QUADRUPLED!!
>>> Date: 2 Oct 2004 08:46:23 -0700

>>> It seems that even a lawyer will finally get his comeuppance.
>>> The ARB on Monday ordered the city tax assessment department to
>>> finally correct the improper assessment and bring the value up to
>>> what it should be.

>>> This means that in one year, the assessment had to jump from the
>>> massive under-assessment of $149,500 to at least $600,000 and
>>> probably $608,000!!!

>>> Even a damned lawyer can finally get what he deserves,when someone
>>> has the guts to force the issue into a court.

>>> How many other massive UNDER-ASSESSMENTS, FOR FRIENDS OF THE CITY
>>> MANAGERS ARE OUT THERE?


>>> heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>> news:<8e4c980f.0409260720.3cd39d0f@posting.google.com>...
>>>> Regarding the article below,the City is now declining to appear
>>>> before the ARB, tomorrow at 3:30 in the afternoon!!

>>>> It seems that they do not want to name the city tax assessor
>>>> responsible for the more than $200,00 REDUCTION in the property tax
>>>> assessment of the city liar/lawyer!!

>>>> In their documents sent to the complainant, the City DOES CONFIRM
>>>> THE CORRECT VALUE AT MORE THAN $608,000!!

>>>> The tax appeal Court/ARB will be asked whether this constitutes
>>>> CORRUPTION, or/and CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE!!!

>>>> Sharx, and others annoyed with city mismanagement, care to comment?


>>>> heinrichhimmelfarb@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>>>> news:<8e4c980f.0408050922.417b9108@posting.google.com>...
>>>>> City have in fact confirmed,and helped correct previous assessment
>>>>> value.
>>>>> It was actually $149,500, while the owners declared value,in
>>>>> writing, was $600,000!!

>>>>> No explanation from the cretins in the Tax Assessment section as to
>>>>> why they gave their buddy such a massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT!!
>>>>> This while they gouge small homeowners and apartment owners with
>>>>> massive tax hikes!!

>>>>> No wonder the number of appeals this year is allegedly double.
>>>>> Perhaps the citizens are finally getting mad enough for a tax
>>>>> revolt.

>>>>>> Apparently THIS scandal is but the tip of the iceberg, regarding
>>>>>> irregularities involving the city tax department.

>>>>>> Another case,coming up in court next week, relates to an
>>>>>> out-of-court settlement the city had to make un connection with the illegal
>>>>>> closure of the southbound access road for Calgary Trail at Ellerslie Road.
>>>>>> One of the property owners, incensed at his astronomical tax
>>>>>> assessment hike this year, is presenting to the tax appeal court, the evidence
>>>>>> that business plummeted, plus that the city had to pay one of the
>>>>>> businesses!!

>>>>>> The right hand did not know what the left did.....


>>>>>> starwars  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>> Can someone explain how a well-known liar/lawyer is able to get a
>>>>>>> massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT on his palatial property,which is
>>>>>>> knowingly under-assessed by more than $200,000.00!!

>>>>>>> This property, which the lawyer and spouse have declared to be
>>>>>>> worth at least $600,000 (yes six hundred thousands because it is
>>>>>>> huge,has law offices on ground floor plus apartments on second
>>>>>>> floor was assessed last year for less than a quarter of
>>>>>>> value,for only $148,000!!

>>>>>>> After the city tax department documented in city tax appeal
>>>>>>> Court last year, evidence of the real value of $600,000. now
>>>>>>> this year it is assessed for $393,500 - still more than $200,000
>>>>>>> UNDER-ASSESSED!!

>>>>>>> At the same time, neighbours are being OVER-ASSESSED by 20%!!

>>>>>>> Naturally, cynics wonder, who is on the take in the City?



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On Fri, 26 May 2006 16:34:13 GMT, SamIAm  wrote:
>sharx35 wrote:
>> "John Fleming"  wrote in message 
>> news:vcga7297ahfl0kb5o229s1lqq7gafok2v5@4ax.com...
>>>On Wed, 24 May 2006 20:58:07 GMT, while chained to a desk in the
>>>scriptorium, Lance Boyle  wrote:

>>>>$SamIAm wrote:
>>>
>>>>$> There are many good reasons to appeal your property assessment.  Here
>>>>$> are some reasons:
>>>>$
>>>>$> Tell them about the busy streets or the noisy development or
>>>>$> a problem with your roof or plumbing.
>>>>$
>>>>$> 2)  Your property is below average for your community.
>>>>$
>>>>$> So if most of the properties in your neighbourhood have
>>>>$> upgraded flooring, cabinets, plumbing, etc. and yours isn't then you 
>>>>are
>>>>$> probably over assessed.
>>>>$
>>>>$> 3)  You live in a neighbourhood where many of your neighbours have 
>>>>built
>>>>$> garages or have completed basement development or have done 
>>>>renovations
>>>>$> and you haven't.
>>>>$
>>>>$In other words, you live in an overvalued shithole.
>>>
>>>LOL

>>>Of course, his best option might be to just sell the house and buy
>>>something nicer in another neighbourhood.  (I was going to say, he could
>>>do a kitchen upgrade, but if odne legally with all the necessary
>>>building permits, the city might just increase the assessed market value
>>>and bump up the taxes.)
>>>
>>>--
>>>
>>>John Fleming
>>>Edmonton, Canada
>>>
>>>    A Dreamer is One Who Can Only Find Her
>>>    Way by Moonlight.
>>>
>>>         -- Oscar Wilde
>> 
>> 
>> Doing upgrades WITHOUT permits eventually pisses off the neighbours enough 
>> that at least ONE of them will file a complaint. I know, I've filed such 
>> complaints. Why should *I* pay more property taxes than some scofflaw who 
>> refuses to get the permits?


>The city assessors are too lazy to look at building permits.  They have 
>admitted that they haven't done anything with building permits for 
>residential property for years.  The only thing they assess are new 
>homes.  If you built a garage or did basement finish in the last 10 
>years or so, chances are good that the improvements have never been 
>assessed.

They are not only criminally lazy, I believe that they are corrupt,
because building permits are handled BY THE SAME DEPARTMENT OF THE
CITY AS ARE TAX ASSESSMENTS!!

Sharx, care to comment, or any other rabble-rouser?



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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:06:33 -0500, Tommy  wrote:

>The Numbers Decline, The Controversy Increases 
>Multiple Sources
>1-21-5

>It is past time for an international investigation conducted by truly
>impartial scientists, researchers and scholars into the reality of
>Auschwitz to properly and as accurately as possible bring history into
>accord with the facts. Peoples of all religions and persuasions have a
>right to such facts. So far, as the following data demonstrates, we are a
>long way from a consensus on the truth of what happened at Auschwitz in
>WWII. 
 
>9,000,000 
>  
>Source: Cited by the French documentary, Night and Fog, which has been shown
>to millions of school students worldwide. 
 
>8,000,000 
 
>Source: The French War Crime Research Office, Doc. 31, 1945. 
 
>7,000,000 
>  
>Source: Also cited by the French War Crime Research Office. 
>  
>6,000,000 
>  
>Source: Cited in the book Auschwitz Doctor by Miklos Nyiszli. It has since
>been proven that this book is a fraud and the "doctor" was never even at
>Auschwitz, even though the book is often cited by historians. 
>  
>5,000,000 to 5,500,000 
>  
>Source: Cited in 1945 at the trial of Auschwitz commander Rudolf Höss, based
>on his confession which was written in English, a language he never spoke. 
>  
>5,000,000 
>  
>Source: Cited on April 20, 1978 by the French daily, Le Monde. Also cited on
>January 23, 1995 by the German daily Die Welt. By September 1, 1989, Le
>Monde reduced the figure to 1,433,000. 
>  
>4,500,000 
>  
>Source: In 1945 this figure was cited by another witness at the
>aforementioned Höss trial. 
>  
>4,000,000 
>  
>Source: Cited by a Soviet document of May 6, 1945 and officially
>acknowledged by the Nuremberg War Crimes trial. This figure was also
>reported in The New York Times on April 18, 1945, although 50 years later
>on January 26, 1995, The New York Times and The Washington Post slashed the
>figure to 1,500,000 citing new findings by the Auschwitz Museum officials.
>In fact, the figure of 4,000,000 was later repudiated by the Auschwitz
>museum officials in 1990 but the figure of 1,500,000 victims was not
>formally announced by Polish President Lech Walesa until five years after
>the Auschwitz historians had first announced their discovery. 
>  
>3,500,000 
>  
>Source: Cited in the 1991 edition of the Dictionary of the French Language
>and by Claude Lanzmann in 1980 in his introduction to Filip Muller's book,
>Three Years in an Auschwitz Gas Chamber. 
>  
>3,000,000 
>  
>Source: Cited in a forced confession by Rudolf Höss, the Auschwitz commander
>who said this was the number of those who had died at Auschwitz prior to
>Dec. 1, 1943. Later cited in the June 7, 1993 issue of Heritage, the most
>widely read Jewish newspaper in California, even though three years
>previously the authorities at the Auschwitz museum had scaled down the
>figure to a minimum of 1,100,000 and a maximum of 1,500,000. (see below). 
>  
>2,500,000 
>  
>Source: Cited by Rudolf Vrba (an author of various fraudulent accounts of
>events he claims to have witnessed at Auschwitz) when he testified on July
>16, 1981 for the Israeli government's war crimes trial of former SS
>official Adolf Eichmann. 
>  
>2,000,000 
>  
>Source: Cited by Leon Poliakov (1951) writing in Harvest of Hate; Georges
>Wellers, writing in 1973 in The Yellow Star at the Time of Vichy; and Lucy
>Dawidowicz, writing in 1975 in The War Against the Jews. 
>  
>2,000,000 to 4,000,000 
>  
>Source: Cited by Yehuda Bauer in 1982 in his book, A History of the
>Holocaust. However, by 1989 Bauer revised his figure to 1,600,000. 
>  
>1,600,000 
>  
>Source: This is a 1989 revision by Yehuda Bauer of his earlier figure in
>1982 of 2,000,000 to 4,000,000, Bauer cited this new figure on September
>22, 1989 in The Jerusalem Post, at which time he wrote "The larger figures
>have been dismissed for years, except that it hasn't reached the public
>yet." 
>  
>1,500,000 
>  
>Source: In 1995 this was the number of Auschwitz deaths announced by Polish
>President Lech Walesa as determined by those at the Auschwitz museum. This
>number was inscribed on the monument at the Auschwitz camp at that time,
>thereby "replacing" the earlier 4,000,000 figure that had been formally
>repudiated (and withdrawn from the monument) five years earlier in 1990. At
>that time, on July 17, 1990 The Washington Times reprinted a brief article
>from The London Daily Telegraph citing the "new" figure of 1,500,000 that
>had been determined by the authorities at the Auschwitz museum. This new
>figure was reported two years later in a UPI report published in the New
>York Post on March 26, 1992. On January 26, 1995 both The Washington Post
>and The New York Times cited this 1,500,000 figure as the new "official"
>figure (citing the Auschwitz Museum authorities). 
>  
>1,471,595 
>  
>Source: This is a 1983 figure cited by Georges Wellers who (as noted
>previously) had determined, writing in 1973, that some 2,000,000 had died. 
>  
>1,433,000 
>  
>Source: This figure was cited on September 1, 1989 by the French daily, Le
>Monde, which earlier, on April 20, 1978, had cited the figure at 4,000,000. 
>  
>1,250,000 
>  
>Source: In the book, The Destruction of the European Jews, by Raul Hilberg
>(1985). 
>  
>1,100,000 to 1,500,000 
>  
>Source: Sources for this estimate are Yisrael Gutman and Michael Berenbaum
>in their 1984 book, Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death Camp. This estimate was
>later also cited by Walter Reich, former director of the U.S. Holocaust
>Memorial Museum, writing in The Washington Post on September 8, 1998. The
>upper figure of 1,500,000 is (the new) "official" figure as now inscribed
>at Auschwitz, with the earlier figure of 4,000,000 having been removed from
>the memorial at the site of the former concentration camp. 
>  
>1,000,000 
>  
>Source: Jean-Claude Pressac, writing in his 1989 book Auschwitz: Technique
>and Operation of the Gas Chambers. This is interesting since he wrote his
>book to repudiate so-called "Holocaust deniers" who were called that
>precisely because they had questioned the numbers of those who had died at
>Auschwitz. 
>  
>900,000 
>  
>Source: Reported on August 3, 1990 11, by Aufbau, a Jewish newspaper in New
>York. 
>  
>800,000 to 900,000 
>  
>Source: Reported by Gerald Reitlinger in his book, The Final Solution. 
>  
>775,000 to 800,000 
>  
>Source: Jean-Claude Pressac's revised figure, put forth in his 1993 book,
>The Crematoria of Auschwitz: The Mass Murder's Machinery, scaling down his
>earlier claim of 1,000,000 dead. 
>  
>630,000 to 710,000 
>  
>Source: In 1994 Pressac scaled his figure down somewhat further; this is the
>figure cited in the German language translation of Pressac's 1993 book
>originally published in French. Again, this is substantially less than
>Pressac's 1989 figure of 1,000,000. 
>  
>135,000 to 140,000 
>  
>Source: This is an estimate based on documents held by the International
>Tracing Service of the Red Cross. It is known that International Tracing
>Service has a complete set of registration documents. This is thought to
>include a complete set of roll-call data which includes twice daily tallies
>of those who died. Although the International Tracing Service of the Red
>Cross has such records, they have never officially published an accurate
>count of those who died, or even an accurate report as to exactly which
>documents they hold. However, totals from these records have been obtained
>by various interested parties. 
>  
>The estimate of 135,500 is roughly corroborated by the "Auschwitz death
>books." The death books themselves are wartime German camp records, which
>were captured by the Soviets towards the end of the war, and hidden in
>Soviet achieves, until released to the Red Cross in 1989. 
>  
>The death books consist of 46 volumes which document each death at Auschwitz
>(each death certificate consists of the deceased person's full name,
>profession and religion, date and place of birth, pre-Auschwitz residence,
>parents' names, time of death, and cause of death as determined by a camp
>physician). The records for the most important years, 1942 and 1943, are
>almost complete (there are also a few volumes for the year 1941, but none
>for the year 1944 or January 1945 (when Auschwitz was evacuated)). 
>  
>The Auschwitz death books contain the death certificates of some 69,000
>individuals, of whom about 30,000 were listed as Jews. You may view various
>entries in the Auschwitz Death Books by clicking on the following links to
>the Auschwitz museum: 
>  
>Using all available wartime records from the various camps it has been
>estimated that between 400,000 and 
>500,000 people died in the German concentration camp system (from all
>causes). 
>  
>The ever declining numbers of alleged dead at Auschwitz, are graphically
>illustrated by the plaques from the camp. 
>  
>The first is the plaque that was on display at the Auschwitz camp from 1948
>until 1989 and states "4 million" victims. 
>  
>The second plaque currently on display at Auschwitz has the dramatically
>reduced number of victims, now only 1.5 million. 
>  
>A casual reduction in the number of deaths by some 2.5 million. 
>  
>Deaths at Auschwitz drop by a stunning 2.5 million, but the legendary
>6,000,000 figure remains the same.
>http://www.rense.com/general62/auch.htm



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On 30 Sep 2004 18:41:39 -0000,  Student Woes wrote:

>Students complaining about exorbitantly high tuition fees
>should be complaining about all the deadwood profs on
>tenure, drawing obscenely high wages and benefits!!

>So-called professors giving unwanted and useless courses
>to 17 so-called students, (most of whom are natives having
>costs paid by taxpayers,) while drawing $120,000 or so in
>wages, is unfair to poor students struggling to pay for
>tuition, books, other fees, and of course living expenses
>such as rent and food.

>If the students would finally get angry enough to force
>university administrations to ABOLISH TENURE, then perhaps
>tuition fees would actually drop to a more acceptable level.

>Why not abolish all tenured profs, if they can not find enough
>suckers to pay the costs of their wages,class facilities and all
>the other costs connected to having a particular program. In other
>words, have only courses that students who must pay, actually want.

>If the courses are not useful to graduates in obtaining
>worthwhile employment, then the university should not be
>having useless profs sucking at the public teat, to the
>increased cost to students as well.

>How many so-called university graduates are good only for
>a part-time job at McGrungy's, because the courses for
>which they got ripped-off, are not worth anything in the
>real world of employment!!

>FIRE ALL THE USELESS PROFS, [especially those that are PC]
>and let them try to earn a living in the real world.Most of
>these profs would probably have to go on welfare!!



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From: Asterix 
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Subject: Re: 2 more Aussie Drug Traffickers to be Hanged - GOOD!
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At least the government of Indonesia know what to do with garbage
people, such as drug dealers.

They know, as do other sensible governments in the area, that an
executed criminal will never re-offend!!

Further, an executed waste of skin, will not cost the taxpayers for
the upkeep in some pampering prison system!!

If only the justice systems in North America would follow suit!!!


On 17 Feb 2006 18:43:24 -0800, "LifeManTalking" 
wrote:

>AUSTRALIA - Few Australians have much sympathy for Andrew Chan and
>Myuran Sukumaran, the two drug traffickers sentenced to death in Bali
>this week for their failed bid to smuggle more than 8kg of heroin on to
>the streets of Sydney.

>The lives of too many of their young people have been destroyed by
>drugs and, as innumerable letters to newspapers and callers to talkback
>radio have pointed out, Chan and Sukumaran could never have been in any
>doubt of the risk they took in running narcotics through Indonesia.

>But the prospect of the pair being taken from Kerobokan jail, tied to a
>tree in some lonely clearing, and shot by a paramilitary firing squad
>raises deep and disturbing moral, political and diplomatic dilemmas for
>a nation that last executed a criminal almost 40 years ago and now
>opposes the death penalty worldwide.

>Their own police provided the information that inevitably led to
>Tuesday's sentence. Their Government welcomed the death penalty given
>to the Bali bombers but opposes the same fate for Australian drug
>traffickers, and public opinion is repulsed by the prospect of
>executions at home but inconsistently accepts them abroad.

>It is a diplomatic minefield that Canberra traversed when
>Vietnamese-born Melburnian Van Tuong Nguyen was hanged in Singapore in
>December for taking heroin through Changi airport, despite Australian
>appeals for clemency.

>It is also a minefield that the nation will confront time and again:
>despite repeated warnings and the appalling reality of executions,
>there will always be people foolish enough to strap drugs to their
>bodies or conceal it in their luggage.

>Almost all will pass through Southeast Asia, the source of most of
>Australia's heroin (the Bali Nine consignment originated in Thailand)
>and where every country but Cambodia compulsorily hangs, shoots or
>lethally injects traffickers.

>Mike Phelan, the head of international operations for the Australian
>Federal Police and the man responsible for giving Indonesia the
>information it needed to arrest the Bali Nine, sees no end to the queue
>of couriers the trade calls "mules".

>"It continues to astound me that people attempt importations and move
>drugs through transit countries knowing that the death penalty exists,"
>he told ABC's Australian Story. "Many young lives get thrown away for
>the law of quick dollars."

>The AFP's role in the arrest of the Bali Nine is among the most
>sensitive of the issues facing Prime Minister John Howard, who has
>already weathered a barrage of criticism that has extended even into
>his own party room.

>The AFP caught the first whispers of a major heroin importing run in
>February last year and, in April, asked the Indonesian police to help
>uncover the members of the syndicate and the source of their supplies.

>Between them, the two forces discovered most of the names and built a
>remarkably accurate picture of their operation, including details of a
>previous successful run and another aborted attempt.

>This co-operation has become increasingly commonplace, spurred by the
>determination of all countries in the region to attack drug trafficking
>and terrorism. Intelligence swapping is required under a number of
>treaties.

>"We make no secret of the fact that the AFP has a policy of forward
>engagement where we want to stop the crimes at the source and (prevent
>them) from reaching Australian shores," Phelan said. "That's a practice
>we will continue to operate within."

>What worries many Australians is the fact that the AFP in effect turned
>over a group of young Australians to a country it knew was likely to
>execute them, rather than arresting them when they arrived home.

>The most emotional response centred on Scott Rush, 20, a drug mule who
>was jailed for life. His family, through lawyer Bob Myers, vainly asked
>the AFP to warn Rush of their interest before he left Australia.

>"No Australian public servant has the right to expose any Australian
>citizen to the death penalty," Myers told Australian Story.

>Rush and fellow mules Renae Lawrence, Martin Stephens and Michael
>Czugaj took the AFP to the Federal Court, claiming it had acted
>illegally by exposing them to the death penalty.

>While a large part of public opinion agreed, the court dismissed the
>action.

>The Government has also sidestepped criticism, pointing out that while
>the relevant treaty with Indonesia contains a clause allowing the
>Attorney-General to refuse to provide evidence if an Australian was
>charged with an offence carrying the death penalty, the AFP was free to
>do as it thought best until charges were laid.

>By the time the Bali Nine were formally charged, all the damaging
>evidence had been gathered.

>Phelan is unrepentant: "Basically all transit countries through which
>drugs come to Australia have the death penalty. The AFP cannot pick and
>choose who it chooses to cooperate with."

>International teamwork in the past few years has significantly reduced
>the flow of drugs into Australia. The most recent Australian Crime
>Commission figures, for 2003-04, show the lowest seizures of heroin for
>a decade.

>Refusal to co-operate abroad would outrage regional governments and
>threaten mutual action against other drug syndicates and terrorism.

>Public opinion in Southeast Asia also strongly favours the death
>penalty for traffickers, with polls in Singapore and Thailand showing
>support of up to 80 per cent.

>In Australia, opinion is more confused. A Morgan poll in November found
>that while only 27 per cent of Australians favoured the death penalty
>for murder, 57 per cent believed drug traffickers caught in Asia should
>die.

>Yet in the specific case of Van Nguyen, opinion was evenly divided.

>In The Australian, a newspoll found that more than 50 per cent of
>Australians favoured the death sentence for people convicted of major
>acts of terrorism.

>Howard now has to weigh all these conflicting factors in framing
>Canberra's approach to the executions of Chan and Sukumaran. He has
>said publicly he has no sympathy for the two men but will vigorously
>pursue Australia's long-standing opposition to the death penalty.

>How that is carried out will test Australian diplomacy.

>Apart from the risks to a fragile relationship, observers have pointed
>out that any blunt approach will almost certainly stiffen backs in
>Jakarta and end any chance of clemency.

>Hopes of saving Chan and Sukumaran now rest with Indonesia's
>inconsistent record in carrying out executions, the fact that in recent
>times only three of the more than 85 prisoners on death row have been
>shot, and the lengthy legal road still to be travelled.

>It may be years before their case moves through the Denpasar provincial
>High Court and the two reviews possible through the Supreme Court in
>Jakarta.

>And though President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono has said he will never
>grant clemency to drug traffickers, time and quiet diplomacy may change
>his mind.

>Death penalty Australia's double dilemma 
>
>18.02.06
>By Greg Ansley



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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:05:11 GMT, Carter  wrote:
>Tiberius Rex wrote:
>> The key question was:
>> Why should foreigners - i.e. non-Albertans be offered an extra
>> $5,000.00 not offered to locals?

>Probably because it wouldn't cost that much to get an Albertan to 
>relocate to Alberta.  You talk as if the $5000 dollars is a gift.  It 
>is not, it is relocation costs.

It IS a gift, since Superstore refuses to pay such largesse to
residents of Alberta, to relocate to Deadmonton or wherever their jobs
are!!

In fact, Stupidstore is NOW offering a $1,000 bonus to new employees,
to be paid AFTER working 1000 hours.

want to bet they will terminate workers just before 1000 hours, just
to avoid paying?

>BTW, Maritimers are not exactly foreigners, the happen to live in the 
>same country as Albertans.
>Carter

As far as residing in Alberta, they are foreigners.

>> On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:55:47 GMT, Carter  wrote:
>>> Tiberius Rex wrote:
>>>> Media this past week have been reporting that Westfair Foods,
>>>> operating as Superstore in Alberta have been trying to recruit people
>>>> from the Maritimes, to work in their stores in Alberta.
>>>>
>>>> They are offering Maritimers, besides wages:
>>>> free round-trip airfares
>>>> one month rent paid by Superstore
>>>> all moving/relocation costs
>>>>
>>>> These add up to around an extr5a $5,000 - which Superstore 
>>>> is NOT offering to workers in Alberta!!
>>> Why would Superstore make that offer to Albertans?  Albertans already 
>>> live in Alberta, Don't they?
>>>
>>> Carter
>> 



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Subject: Re: $Half MILLION UNDERASSESSED By City Tax Dept.Crooks!! Check YOUR Assessment This Month!
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This month, the crooks in the city Tax Assessment Department will be
mailing out the fictitous assessments for taxation for this year.

If you feel that the assessment for your property is TOO HIGH, while
some neighbours are deliberately UNDER-ASSESSED, then file an appeal!!
If you are angry enough, let everyone know, and tell us on the
newsgroups.

Perhaps if there is enough publicity about these crooks, the city will
finally have to fire a few more, and hire some honest assessors!

All city home assessments are readily available on the internet, for
easy comparison.

Don't let yourself get JEWED by the crooks on the city payroll.
Expose them, as Grosvenor did about the lawyer's property, detailed
below.

The lawyer even had his property up for city tax sale, this year, for
unpaid taxes, April 27 2006!!

On 29 Jun 2005 15:16:21 -0700, "Brian Boulanger"
 wrote:

>One MUST wonder - was it bribery, graft, corruption or what, that this
>lawyer got a donation from the city tax department of a HALF MILLION
>DOLLARS each year deliberately UNDER-ASSESSED, while honest taxpayers
>got the shaft/got screwed!!

>Perhaps criminal charges should be considered against those city staff
>responsible, for the massive under-collection of proper tax revenues
>for 8 years? Particularly since it took a courageous taxpayer to force
>this scam into the courts and into the open!


>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics, ab.general, calgary.general
>From: "Brian Boulanger"  - Find messages
>by this author
>Date: 27 Jun 2005 18:19:01 -0700
>Local: Mon,Jun 27 2005 8:19 pm
>Subject: $Half MILLION Underassessed By City Tax Dept.-Heads to Roll!!
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>It seems that now that the City Auditor-General has his teeth into this
>notorious expose, more heads in the City Tax Assessment Department will
>be getting chopped, besides those staff already terminated.

>The notorious William Grosvenor took the city to tax court, and exposed
>the situation where a well-known lawyer's property was improperly
>UNDERASSESSED BY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS - at $149,500, when the
>lawyer's own documentation declared a value of $600,000!!

>Only now, after the courageous expose, is the property properly
>assessed at $651,000!!

>For 8 years the lawyer got off, while taxpayers who did pay their share
>had to make up the difference.

>Everyone involved in the cover-up, and scam, should not only be fired,
>but prosecuted for criminality as well!


>Newsgroups: edm.general, edm.politics
>From: Mike McWilliams  -
>Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 08:20:14 -0600
>Subject: APPEAL YOUR TAXES! Don't Get Jewed By Crooks In City Tax
>Dept.!

>If your city tax assessment has increased more than the 2.4% inflation
>certified by StatsCan, then perhaps you also are a victim of the crooks
>running Deadmonton?!!

>If you feel you are being overcharged, then do what you are entitled to
>do - FILE AN APPEAL!!

>The odds are in your favour, since more than 80% of appeals against the
>City,win!!

>Checking the website for this year's assessments, it seems that the
>city of Edmonton finally obeyed the ARB,regarding the dramatically
>UNDERASSESSED property owned by a city liar/lawyer!.
>The value now is $651,000, up from the ridiculous $149,500!!!

>If not CORRUPTION, then at least favouritism, when property
>UNDER-ASSESSED BY HALF MILLION DOLLARS!!

>Rumour has it that the city tax assessor responsible, is no longer
>employed by the city??
>Why should a private citizen have to take the City to Court, just to
>force the city to do a proper job, for which some slimeball is getting overpaid?


>From: heinrichhimmelf...@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb)
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>Subject: Re: Graft,Corruption Claimed in City Tax Appeal!! LAWYER TO
>GET TAXES QUADRUPLED!!
>Date: 2 Oct 2004 08:46:23 -0700

>It seems that even a lawyer will finally get his comeuppance.
>The ARB on Monday ordered the city tax assessment department to
>finally correct the improper assessment and bring the value up to what
>it should be.

>This means that in one year, the assessment had to jump from the
>massive under-assessment of $149,500 to at least $600,000 and probably
>$608,000!!!

>Even a damned lawyer can finally get what he deserves,when someone has
>the guts to force the issue into a court.

>How many other massive UNDER-ASSESSMENTS, FOR FRIENDS OF THE CITY
>MANAGERS ARE OUT THERE?

>heinrichhimmelf...@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message
>...

>> Regarding the article below,the City is now declining to appear before
>> the ARB, tomorrow at 3:30 in the afternoon!!
>> It seems that they do not want to name the city tax assessor
>> responsible for the more than $200,00 REDUCTION in the property tax
>> assessment of the city liar/lawyer!!

>> In their documents sent to the complainant, the City DOES CONFIRM THE
>> CORRECT VALUE AT MORE THAN $608,000!!
>> The tax appeal Court/ARB will be asked whether this constitutes
>> CORRUPTION, or/and CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE!!!
>> Sharx, and others annoyed with city mismanagement, care to comment?

>> heinrichhimmelf...@xmail.net (HeinrichHimmelfarb) wrote in message ...
>> > City have in fact confirmed,and helped correct previous assessment
>> > value.
>> > It was actually $149,500, while the owners declared value,in writing,
>> > was $600,000!!

>> > No explanation from the cretins in the Tax Assessment section as to
>> > why they gave their buddy such a massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT!!
>> > This while they gouge small homeowners and apartment owners with
>> > massive tax hikes!!

>> > No wonder the number of appeals this year is allegedly double.
>> > Perhaps the citizens are finally getting mad enough for a tax revolt.
>> > > Apparently THIS scandal is but the tip of the iceberg, regarding
>> > > irregularities involving the city tax department.
>> > > Another case,coming up in court next week, relates to an out-of-court
>> > > settlement the city had to make un connection with the illegal closure
>> > > of the southbound access road for Calgary Trail at Ellerslie Road.
>> > > One of the property owners, incensed at his astronomical tax assessment hike
>> > > this year, is presenting to the tax appeal court, the evidence that
>> > > business plummeted, plus that the city had to pay one of the businesses!!
>> > > The right hand did not know what the left did.....

>> > > starwars  wrote in message ...
>> > > > Can someone explain how a well-known liar/lawyer is able to get a
>> > > > massive UNDER-ASSESSMENT on his palatial property,which is knowingly
>> > > > under-assessed by more than $200,000.00!!
>> > > > This property, which the lawyer and spouse have declared to be worth
>> > > > at least $600,000 (yes six hundred thousands because it is huge,has
>> > > > law offices on ground floor plus apartments on second floor was
>> > > > assessed last year for less than a quarter of value,for only
>> > > > $148,000!!
>> > > > After the city tax department documented in city tax appeal Court last
>> > > > year, evidence of the real value of $600,000. now this year it is
>> > > > assessed for $393,500 - still more than $200,000 UNDER-ASSESSED!!
>> > > > At the same time, neighbours are being OVER-ASSESSED by 20%!!
>> > > > Naturally, cynics wonder, who is on the take in the City?



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On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 03:06:31 GMT, "Northumberland"
 wrote:
>"Frank Arthur"  wrote in message 
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>> Today's Edmonton Journal [24 March 2006]in a feature article states that
>> Edmonton has lost many thousands of jobs, according to Statistics Canada.

>What does this have to to with Toronto? 

Idiots from Toronto may be considering losing their money in
Deadmonton, perhaps?



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Deadmonton DOES NOT have a population of over 900,000!!
The city population is just over 500,000!!

The city is using the fictitious figure, to minimise the murder rate
in town!!

Don't forget, that the last 4 cop chiefs have all been canned in
disgrace!
Plus, the crooked cops still have not charged the serial killer of
over 100 women, which is making many think that perhaps it is 
one of the rogue cops doing all the extra murders!!

In fact the new chief this year is from Toronto. He was repeatedly
REFUSED the position of chief there. Mind you, as soon as he leaves
Toronto, Bill Blair the new chief, goes out and arrests 78 gang
members!!

Wonder why Mike Code did nothing about this while he was there as
deputy chief?

Apart from all the convictions against city cops for torture, with
more cops constantly being charged, and killing innocent victims like
last week!!

On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 22:27:54 GMT, "Chom Noamsky"  wrote:

>Edmonton records 37 homicides in 2005 while Toronto records 78.  Considering 
>the relative populations (est. 2004) of these two cities, the per 100,000 
>homicide rate works out to:

>  Edmonton - ( 37 / 947,311 ) * 10^5 = 3.9
>  Toronto - ( 78 / 2,518,772 ) * 10^5 = 3.1

>Oh what a shocker!  You're 25% more likely to become a victim of homicide in 
>Edmonton than Toronto.  What makes me laugh is the Alberta crackpot who 
>claims crime and homicide is somehow special to "Cherrana" and that the 
>problem is mysteriously attributable to "socialism."




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On Fri, 26 May 2006 16:34:13 GMT, SamIAm  wrote:
>sharx35 wrote:
>> "John Fleming"  wrote in message 
>> news:vcga7297ahfl0kb5o229s1lqq7gafok2v5@4ax.com...
>>>On Wed, 24 May 2006 20:58:07 GMT, while chained to a desk in the
>>>scriptorium, Lance Boyle  wrote:

>>>>$SamIAm wrote:
>>>
>>>>$> There are many good reasons to appeal your property assessment.  Here
>>>>$> are some reasons:
>>>>$
>>>>$> Tell them about the busy streets or the noisy development or
>>>>$> a problem with your roof or plumbing.
>>>>$
>>>>$> 2)  Your property is below average for your community.
>>>>$
>>>>$> So if most of the properties in your neighbourhood have
>>>>$> upgraded flooring, cabinets, plumbing, etc. and yours isn't then you 
>>>>are
>>>>$> probably over assessed.
>>>>$
>>>>$> 3)  You live in a neighbourhood where many of your neighbours have 
>>>>built
>>>>$> garages or have completed basement development or have done 
>>>>renovations
>>>>$> and you haven't.
>>>>$
>>>>$In other words, you live in an overvalued shithole.
>>>
>>>LOL

>>>Of course, his best option might be to just sell the house and buy
>>>something nicer in another neighbourhood.  (I was going to say, he could
>>>do a kitchen upgrade, but if odne legally with all the necessary
>>>building permits, the city might just increase the assessed market value
>>>and bump up the taxes.)
>>>
>>>--
>>>
>>>John Fleming
>>>Edmonton, Canada
>>>
>>>    A Dreamer is One Who Can Only Find Her
>>>    Way by Moonlight.
>>>
>>>         -- Oscar Wilde
>> 
>> 
>> Doing upgrades WITHOUT permits eventually pisses off the neighbours enough 
>> that at least ONE of them will file a complaint. I know, I've filed such 
>> complaints. Why should *I* pay more property taxes than some scofflaw who 
>> refuses to get the permits?


>The city assessors are too lazy to look at building permits.  They have 
>admitted that they haven't done anything with building permits for 
>residential property for years.  The only thing they assess are new 
>homes.  If you built a garage or did basement finish in the last 10 
>years or so, chances are good that the improvements have never been 
>assessed.

They are not only criminally lazy, I believe that they are corrupt,
because building permits are handled BY THE SAME DEPARTMENT OF THE
CITY AS ARE TAX ASSESSMENTS!!

Sharx, care to comment, or any other rabble-rouser?



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On Fri, 26 May 2006 19:52:23 GMT, "TJ"  wrote:

>get a grip will you...over 100 bodies...ya right...show me the stats on that 
>1...just because they are missing that doesn't prove they are dead, they 
>lead a dangerous life sytle and move all over the place. If anything we need 
>better looking hookers instead of the skank we have walking the streets.

It is the media who have tabulated more than 100 bodies of sex trade
workers in the past few years.

>suuurrreeeeeee....we are all wondering if it's a cop, what BS....
>
>and how do you know it's "1" killer or a cop for that matter...maybe more 
>than 1....your watching to much tv my friend.....

Perhaps, but surely you are not denying the fact, that a crooked cop
would easily know how to cover his trail, so his brother cops would
not bother to investigate? Particularly the cops hired and promoted
over the past 20 years!

>better get your facts straight....as for Boyd, he has done a bang up job 
>since he has been here. Our police service is so screwed up it was a wonder 
>Boyd or anyone would take the job. But he did get them to up the salary to 
>$250 grand a year to take the job, nice cheque every 2 weeks eh.......


You failed to answer the question in the header - why was he
constantly REFUSED THE TOP JOB IN TORONTO?
Was it something to do with his wife also being on the public trough
there?

>there's nothing to wonder, he's doing a great job and has the respect of the 
>people in this city and from the members of the EPS...it's the members of 
>the EPS I would wonder about.

Who says he has the respect of the public here, apart from you?

>they all seem taser happy these days....
 Including the kids of the former chief, don't forget...

>"Asterix"  wrote in message 
>news:6ojc72t48htptgc2kogrektlb7qbask92s@4ax.com...
>> Why Cop Mike Boyd , who was Deputy Chief for ages, Refused as Chief of
>> Police Toronto?
>>
>> If you have inside info on this, kindly post, so we all can know.
>>
>> Now that he is chief cop in Edmonton, people there are starting to
>> wonder also.
>>
>> Since he left Toronto, all of a sudden there is anti-gang arrests in
>> volume. Why so little real anti-criminal work while Boyd was in
>> Toronto?
>>
>> In Edmonton, the serial killer continues his depredations against sex
>> trade workers, with the total now well over 100 bodies!!
>>
>> But no arrests by the Edmonton cops, which has people wondering
>> whether the killer is one of the cops? 
>



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Even Robert Weldon wants everyone to know about the crooks in the city
tax department, which is why he reposts the header.

On Fri, 26 May 2006 07:56:39 GMT, "sharx35" 
wrote:
>"TopPoster."  wrote in message 
>news:Ggydg.230$Dq.236618@news.sisna.com...
>> Sharx the nark

>Well, SOME day, if you save up all your welfare payments, you, too, may 
>become a home owner and concerned about property taxes.

Well said, sharx.

If it wasn't for Grosvenor exposing the HALF MILLION A YEAR DELIBERATE
UNDER-ASSESSMENT ON THE PROPERTY AT 13723 - 93 ST., which was
deliberately under-assessed for 8 years, the public would not have had
the PROOF as to how crooked the city tax assessors are!!


>> Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once
>> they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. 
>> If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
>> should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, 
>> but
>> the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the 
>> erroneous

>> "sharx35"  wrote in message
>> news:Feydg.35358$Qq.27711@clgrps12...
>>> "John Fleming"  wrote in message
>>> news:vcga7297ahfl0kb5o229s1lqq7gafok2v5@4ax.com...
>>> > On Wed, 24 May 2006 20:58:07 GMT, while chained to a desk in the
>>> > scriptorium, Lance Boyle  wrote:
>>> >> $SamIAm wrote:

>>> >> $> There are many good reasons to appeal your property assessment.
>> Here
>>> >> $> are some reasons:
>>> >> $
>>> >> $> Tell them about the busy streets or the noisy development or
>>> >> $> a problem with your roof or plumbing.
>>> >> $
>>> >> $> 2)  Your property is below average for your community.
>>> >> $
>>> >> $> So if most of the properties in your neighbourhood have
>>> >> $> upgraded flooring, cabinets, plumbing, etc. and yours isn't then 
>>> >> you
>>> >> are
>>> >> $> probably over assessed.
>>> >> $
>>> >> $> 3)  You live in a neighbourhood where many of your neighbours have
>>> >> built
>>> >> $> garages or have completed basement development or have done
>>> >> renovations
>>> >> $> and you haven't.
>>> >> $
>>> >> $In other words, you live in an overvalued shithole.
>>> >
>>> > LOL
>>> >
>>> > Of course, his best option might be to just sell the house and buy
>>> > something nicer in another neighbourhood.  (I was going to say, he 
>>> > could
>>> > do a kitchen upgrade, but if odne legally with all the necessary
>>> > building permits, the city might just increase the assessed market 
>>> > value
>>> > and bump up the taxes.)

>>> > John Fleming
>>> > Edmonton, Canada

>>>
>>> Doing upgrades WITHOUT permits eventually pisses off the neighbours 
>>> enough
>>> that at least ONE of them will file a complaint. I know, I've filed such
>>> complaints. Why should *I* pay more property taxes than some scofflaw who
>>> refuses to get the permits?



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On 30 May 2006 16:57:18 -0700, "His Divine Shadow"
 wrote:

>Asterix wrote:
>> When places like Edmonton get worldwide publicity for POLICE TORTURING
>> INNOCENT CIVILIANS; punk kids murder bus passenger and cops don't
>> bother to attend for over half an hour; many cops now charged with
>> tasering people; all the hooligans amok on Whyte Avenue while cops
>> stand by with fingers up their butts.
>
>FEAR! UNCERTANTY! DOUBT!
>
>Obviously, based on these hyperbolic and unsupportable statements, the
>only recourse is to panic.

I guess you can not afford to get newspapers, nor do you have a TV.

The media for the past few months have been reporting so many
incidents of crooked cops in Edmonton, one must wonder whether there
are any HONEST cops in that place.

Even the former police chief had to be fired for just cause.

Then, TV showed all the goons in town rioting, smashing store windows,
setting fires in the streets, and basically looking like somewhere in
darkest Africa.

Would any sane person want to go there as a tourist>
Of course, not!


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On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:52:12 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
 wrote:
>Asterix wrote:
>> On 30 May 2006 16:57:18 -0700, "His Divine Shadow"
>>  wrote:
>>>Asterix wrote:

>>>>When places like Edmonton get worldwide publicity 

>snip

>> Would any sane person want to go there as a tourist>
>> Of course, not!

>Perhaps they want to watch decent Canadian hockey?
There isn't any, in Canada.

Perhaps foreign tourists are fed up having to be swindled by Canadian
tourist sites?

Perhaps foreign tourists dislike all the gouging by the Canadian
government with all their taxes and fees, for no services?

Perhaps tourists have heard on international TV about unsafe sites
such as West Edmonton Mall, this week for the second time havbing part
of the roof collapse, together with massive flooding of contaminated
water?

Perhaps tourists feel that they can get better value for their
payment, by visiting eastern Europe, SE Asia, or even countries in the
Caribbean, rather than communist Canada.



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On Fri, 26 May 2006 16:21:08 GMT, Asterix
 wrote:

Even Robert Weldon wants everyone to know about the crooks in the city
tax department, which is why he reposts the header.

Guess even a high roller like Weldon resents other crooks in town
getting away with graft and corruption?

>On Fri, 26 May 2006 07:56:39 GMT, "sharx35" 
>wrote:
>>"TopPoster."  wrote in message 
>>news:Ggydg.230$Dq.236618@news.sisna.com...
>>> Sharx the nark

>>Well, SOME day, if you save up all your welfare payments, you, too, may 
>>become a home owner and concerned about property taxes.

>Well said, sharx.

If it wasn't for Grosvenor exposing the HALF MILLION A YEAR DELIBERATE
UNDER-ASSESSMENT ON THE PROPERTY AT 13723 - 93 ST., which was
deliberately under-assessed for 8 years, the public would not have had
the PROOF as to how crooked the city tax assessors are!!


>>> Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once
>>> they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. 
>>> If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
>>> should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, 
>>> but the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the 
>>> erroneous

>>> "sharx35"  wrote in message
>>> news:Feydg.35358$Qq.27711@clgrps12...
>>>> "John Fleming"  wrote in message
>>>> news:vcga7297ahfl0kb5o229s1lqq7gafok2v5@4ax.com...
>>>> > On Wed, 24 May 2006 20:58:07 GMT, while chained to a desk in the
>>>> > scriptorium, Lance Boyle  wrote:
>>>> >> $SamIAm wrote:

>>>> >> $> There are many good reasons to appeal your property assessment.
>>> Here are some reasons:

>>>> >> $> Tell them about the busy streets or the noisy development or
>>>> >> $> a problem with your roof or plumbing.

>>>> >> $> 2)  Your property is below average for your community.

>>>> >> $> So if most of the properties in your neighbourhood have
>>>> >> $> upgraded flooring, cabinets, plumbing, etc. and yours isn't then 
>>>> >> you are probably over assessed.

>>>> >> $> 3)  You live in a neighbourhood where many of your neighbours have
>>>> >> built garages or have completed basement development or have done
>>>> >> renovations and you haven't.

>>>> >> $In other words, you live in an overvalued shithole.

>>>> > LOL

>>>> > Of course, his best option might be to just sell the house and buy
>>>> > something nicer in another neighbourhood.  (I was going to say, he 
>>>> > could do a kitchen upgrade, but if odne legally with all the necessary
>>>> > building permits, the city might just increase the assessed market 
>>>> > value and bump up the taxes.)
>>>> > John Fleming
>>>> > Edmonton, Canada

>>>> Doing upgrades WITHOUT permits eventually pisses off the neighbours 
>>>> enough that at least ONE of them will file a complaint. I know, I've filed such
>>>> complaints. Why should *I* pay more property taxes than some scofflaw who
>>>> refuses to get the permits?



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On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:27:17 GMT, dangdangdoodle3
 wrote:
>In article ,
> "NDP Rogue"  Socilaists.6768447746865.gov> wrote:

>> Former Vancouver police officer faces child pornography charges

>> VANCOUVER (CP) - A former police officer who once ran the department's
>> school-liaison program faces child pornography charges. John Dragani has
>> been charged with one count of possession of child pornography and one count
>> of accessing child pornography. Dragani, who was a sergeant, was suspended
>> without pay last year until he retired. Vancouver Constable Tim Fanning says
>> Crown counsel approved the charges after an aggressive police investigation.
>> Fanning says the allegations were embarrassing, but it's also an opportunity
>> to show when criminal conduct is alleged against an officer they take it
>> seriously. Dragani was arrested Monday at his Vancouver home and will face
>> the charges in Surrey provincial court.

>It would take 5 or 6 minutes to charge anyone else, but for this cop, it 
>took over a year and apparently he was allowed to retire. Plus he 
>appears to be minimally charged, where as someone else would have the 
>book thrown at them.

>Any cop caught breaking the law on duty should have automatically 
>doubled sentencing because they've also broken the public's trust which 
>they have agreed to keep. I'm sure people like Harper, who believe in 
>longer sentences to protect the public would agree with me, if he's not 
>a being a bloody hypocrite again.

Typical of the crooked police forces in Canada!
Since they could not completely cover it up, they allowed the crooked
cop to resign, so he could collect his pension and other benefits!!

Subject: Re: ZYD Friedman-KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTOR , from Synagogue!!
He Did No Jail Time!! Edmonton Man,Not Jew, Gets 3 1/2 Years!

On 18 Mar 2006 20:14:27 -0000, Ariadne wrote:
And Robert Welldumb could find nothing wrong with the detailed report,
so he complains about the TRUTH:

Welldumb could not explain why the crooked ZYD got no jail, while the
white man in Edmonton got 3 1/2 years in jail - FOR AN EVEN LESSER
OFFENCE!!

One must wonder, is Welldumb another kiddie porn distributor?

>Notice that Ted had listed at least 2 different Friedman
>JEW CHILD MOLESTERS!!

>Are these Friedmans related to the pervert Stuart Friedman, former cantor of
>the synagogue in Halifax, Canada?

>He is the one caught as a major international distributor of KIDDIE PORN, from
>his synagogue. The Canadian cops allowed him to flee back to Boston, where the
>FBI picked him up!!

>But for a white man convicted of similar charges, the white guy in Edmonton gets 3 1/2 years in jail!!

One must question the preferential treatment given to the KIDDIE PORN
DISTRIBUTOR OPERATING FROM THE SYNAGOGUE!!

Why was he allowed to avoid jail, when a white man gets 3 1/2 years,
deservedly?

What did the crooked judge in that case receive for his generosity?

Looks like the Canadian public got JEWED, again!!
________________________________________
>On 31 Dec 2005 11:49:41 -0800, "Iamhere"  wrote:
>
>>If your piece is fact, what is the major deal about one Jewish pervert
>>vis a vis the thousands of priests who earned their prayer beads by
>>buggering little boys? I say you are a goyische hypocrite.
>>Iamhere
>>======================================================================================
>>Ted Dichtler wrote:
>>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:11:31 -0700, ariadne 
>>> wrote:
>
>>> Are these Friedmans related to the pervert Stuart Friedman, former
>>> cantor of the synagogue in Halifax, Canada?
>
>>> He is the one caught as a major international DISTRIBUTOR of KIDDIE
>>> PORN, from his synagogue. The Canadian cops allowed him to flee back
>>> to Boston, where the FBI picked him up!!
>
>>> Story as reported by newspaper follows:
>>> kenmcvay  Feb 14 1999, 1:00 am
>>> Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish, soc.culture.russian, soc.culture.ukrainian,
>>> soc.culture.palestine
>>> From: kenmc...@in.vino.veritas.lies
>>> Date: 1999/02/14
>>> Subject: Re: NIZKOR Supports ZHID Kiddie Porn Distributor from Synangogue
>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 17:16:03 GMT, odess...@direct.ca wrote:
>>> >On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 01:55:53 -0500, jacob bekker 
>>> >wrote:
>
>>> >>If that was "A Polish school teacher at a Halifax church..." than it was O.K.
>>> >>J.B.
>>> >No, it would not be OK, no matter who is the pervert.
>
>>> >What is of concern, is whether the 3 NON-JEWS presently charged with
>>> >similar crimes, will now also be allowed to leave Canada, without
>>> >having to spend the normal 5 years in prison?
>
>>> >Or, is this generosity only available to damn JEW KIDDIE PORN
>>> >DISTRIBUTORS, especially if they are connected to a synagogue??
>
>>> >>> > wrote:
>
>>> ARREST SHOCKS SYNAGOGUE; TEACHER FLIES BACK TO U.S.
>>> By EVA HOARE and AMY PUGSLEY FRASER Staff Reporters
>
>>> A Hebrew school teacher and cantor at a Halifax synagogue, who downloaded
>>> hundreds of pornographic photographs of children from the Internet, was
>>> fined $2,200 in court Tuesday.
>
>>> The fine was paid and Suart David Friedman, a
>>> well-liked and respected member of the Beth Israel Synagogue, promptly left
>>> the country for his native United States.
>
>>> It's the first charge of its kind in Nova Scotia and justice officials
>>> hinted that Mr. Friedman's activities - downloading a personal fantasy
>>> collection of boys performing sexual and sadomasochistic acts - could be
>>> connected to an international child pornography ring.
>
>>> Mr. Friedman, 42, of South Park Street, Halifax, pleaded guilty to
>>> possessing child pornography from the Internet. When Canada Customs and
>>> police officers arrested him during a raid on his apartment Monday, the
>>> cantor was surfing the Net. Although his private cache contained photographs
>>> and videos - as well as gay and bondage magazines - the bulk of his
>>> collection was 223 computer-generated photos of child pornography stored on
>>> diskettes, on two computer hard drives, and on computer printouts.
>
>>> ``It's extremely disgusting,'' said Const. Gary Martin of the Halifax
>>> Regional Police Service, whose officers also conducted a search of Chebucto
>>> Freenet offices, Mr. Friedman's Internet provider. ``Ninety per cent of this
>>> material was obtained either directly or indirectly through the Internet.
>>> Some ... was directly downloaded from the Internet and some ... was obtained
>>> from different groups that are within the Internet,'' Const. Martin said.
>>> ``The pictures are very explicit. It covers just about every avenue of
>>> pornography that's out there.''
>
>>> Canada Customs' intelligence division started working the case last
>>> September and then brought in regional police, said Ed Osborne, customs'
>>> regional intelligence officer.
>
>>> Now officers - who'll spend hundreds of hours poring over the materials -
>>> want to know if any Nova Scotian children were depicted in the ``gruesome''
>>> photos and material seized. But they do not expect that will be the case.
>
>>> Parents of children who attended the Hebrew school, shocked by the arrest,
>>> planned to meet Tuesday night. ``As aware as people are that these things
>>> can and do happen, it's still a shock,'' said Cathy Fox, president of the
>>> Beth Israel Synagogue. Her three children - two sons and a daughter - were
>>> taught by Mr. Friedman at the synagogue's Hebrew school. ``It's a very
>>> difficult time.''
>
>>> The cantor - who leads the congregation in song - taught her 13- year-old
>>> son songs and chants that were part of his bar mitzvah ceremony last
>>> October, Mrs. Fox said.
>
>>> Some members will feel betrayed as a result of the charges. ``I think the
>>> elderly members of our congregation will be very hurt by this.'' Some are
>>> appalled while others expressed sympathy. ``I'm very saddened,'' said Robert
>>> Wolman, president of the synagogue's board of governors.
>
>>> Mr. Wolman said he and other board members heard about the case Monday night
>>> and Mr. Friedman was immediately dismissed.
>
>>> Wearing an olive-colored trenchcoat and a black yarmulke (skull cap) over
>>> his greying hair, a pale and visibly nervous Mr. Friedman was ushered into
>>> provincial court by two sheriff's deputies. Refusing even to look up at the
>>> judge, he stared resolutely at the floor while wringing his hands.
>
>>> ``This is the first (such) charge through our office,'' Crown attorney Frank
>>> Hoskins told Judge Hughes Randall. ``But it sends a message out to the
>>> public that if you're in possession of these images from your Internet and
>>> they're child pornography, you can be charged with a criminal offence and
>>> get a criminal record and a substantial fine,'' Mr. Hoskins said later.
>
>>> Article Segment 2 of 2
>>> (Ge
>>> (Get All
>
>>> Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada
>>> and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and
>>> electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said.
>
>>> Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and
>>> that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search
>>> conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records.
>
>>> Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated
>>> with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His
>>> intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown.
>
>>> The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will
>>> help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins=
>>> said.
>
>>> Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet
>>> specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at
>>> this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law
>>> enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.''
>
>>> Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution
>>> of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies
>>> are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined
>>> comment.
>
>>> Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at
>>> $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine
>>> ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also
>>> confiscated.
>
>>> After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston
>>> to be with his family.
>
>>> Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a
>>> maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they
>>> did say there was a plea bargain.
>
>>> Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived
>>> in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last
>>> posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead
>>> prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no
>>> prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said.
>
>>> ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox,
>>> who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through
>>> the media.
>>> ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking
>>> about how we will handle this.''
>
>>> Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as
>>> possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors.
>
>>> Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or
>>> partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related
>>> material.
>
>>> With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey
>>> The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997.
>
>>> Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to:
>>> http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org
>
>
>>> >On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:54:44 +0100, "mkarwan"  wrote:
>
>>> >>http://judicial-inc.biz/freidman_pedophiles_from_hell.htm
>
>>> >One Of Jewry's Most Explosive Incidences
>
>>> >Every now and then, there is a crime so ghastly, that even the Jewish media
>>> >control can't prevent the world from knowing. The crimes of the Friedmans were
>>> >so atrocious, that no string pulling was going to stop this investigation.
>
>>> >They were running a day care in the morning, and teaching computers to 8, 9,
>>> >and 10 yr olds in the afternoon.
>
>>> >They were found to have molested  hundreds of children, and taken extensive
>>> >video and photographic files on their molestations.
>
>>> It seems that much of the pornography and especially KIDDIE PORN
>>> rackets worldwide are run by the JEWS!

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Posted by: 
Patrick Lee Humphrey
7500 Bellerive #1807
Houston, Texas 77036-3040
1-713-266-7764

Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with
Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
Henry 
CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
VISIT me at:
55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David
Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and
is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a
grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases,
just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially
late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

And also: George Firestone: "George" ,
and davejoll@ihug.co.nz.

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.




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On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:27:17 GMT, dangdangdoodle3
 wrote:
>In article ,
> "NDP Rogue"  Socilaists.6768447746865.gov> wrote:

>> Former Vancouver police officer faces child pornography charges

>> VANCOUVER (CP) - A former police officer who once ran the department's
>> school-liaison program faces child pornography charges. John Dragani has
>> been charged with one count of possession of child pornography and one count
>> of accessing child pornography. Dragani, who was a sergeant, was suspended
>> without pay last year until he retired. Vancouver Constable Tim Fanning says
>> Crown counsel approved the charges after an aggressive police investigation.
>> Fanning says the allegations were embarrassing, but it's also an opportunity
>> to show when criminal conduct is alleged against an officer they take it
>> seriously. Dragani was arrested Monday at his Vancouver home and will face
>> the charges in Surrey provincial court.

>It would take 5 or 6 minutes to charge anyone else, but for this cop, it 
>took over a year and apparently he was allowed to retire. Plus he 
>appears to be minimally charged, where as someone else would have the 
>book thrown at them.

>Any cop caught breaking the law on duty should have automatically 
>doubled sentencing because they've also broken the public's trust which 
>they have agreed to keep. I'm sure people like Harper, who believe in 
>longer sentences to protect the public would agree with me, if he's not 
>a being a bloody hypocrite again.

Typical of the crooked police forces in Canada!
Since they could not completely cover it up, they allowed the crooked
cop to resign, so he could collect his pension and other benefits!!

Subject: Re: ZYD Friedman-KIDDIE PORN DISTRIBUTOR , from Synagogue!!
He Did No Jail Time!! Edmonton Man,Not Jew, Gets 3 1/2 Years!

On 18 Mar 2006 20:14:27 -0000, Ariadne wrote:
And Robert Welldumb could find nothing wrong with the detailed report,
so he complains about the TRUTH:

Welldumb could not explain why the crooked ZYD got no jail, while the
white man in Edmonton got 3 1/2 years in jail - FOR AN EVEN LESSER
OFFENCE!!

One must wonder, is Welldumb another kiddie porn distributor?

>Notice that Ted had listed at least 2 different Friedman
>JEW CHILD MOLESTERS!!

>Are these Friedmans related to the pervert Stuart Friedman, former cantor of
>the synagogue in Halifax, Canada?

>He is the one caught as a major international distributor of KIDDIE PORN, from
>his synagogue. The Canadian cops allowed him to flee back to Boston, where the
>FBI picked him up!!

>But for a white man convicted of similar charges, the white guy in Edmonton gets 3 1/2 years in jail!!

One must question the preferential treatment given to the KIDDIE PORN
DISTRIBUTOR OPERATING FROM THE SYNAGOGUE!!

Why was he allowed to avoid jail, when a white man gets 3 1/2 years,
deservedly?

What did the crooked judge in that case receive for his generosity?

Looks like the Canadian public got JEWED, again!!
________________________________________
>On 31 Dec 2005 11:49:41 -0800, "Iamhere"  wrote:
>
>>If your piece is fact, what is the major deal about one Jewish pervert
>>vis a vis the thousands of priests who earned their prayer beads by
>>buggering little boys? I say you are a goyische hypocrite.
>>Iamhere
>>======================================================================================
>>Ted Dichtler wrote:
>>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:11:31 -0700, ariadne 
>>> wrote:
>
>>> Are these Friedmans related to the pervert Stuart Friedman, former
>>> cantor of the synagogue in Halifax, Canada?
>
>>> He is the one caught as a major international DISTRIBUTOR of KIDDIE
>>> PORN, from his synagogue. The Canadian cops allowed him to flee back
>>> to Boston, where the FBI picked him up!!
>
>>> Story as reported by newspaper follows:
>>> kenmcvay  Feb 14 1999, 1:00 am
>>> Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish, soc.culture.russian, soc.culture.ukrainian,
>>> soc.culture.palestine
>>> From: kenmc...@in.vino.veritas.lies
>>> Date: 1999/02/14
>>> Subject: Re: NIZKOR Supports ZHID Kiddie Porn Distributor from Synangogue
>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 17:16:03 GMT, odess...@direct.ca wrote:
>>> >On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 01:55:53 -0500, jacob bekker 
>>> >wrote:
>
>>> >>If that was "A Polish school teacher at a Halifax church..." than it was O.K.
>>> >>J.B.
>>> >No, it would not be OK, no matter who is the pervert.
>
>>> >What is of concern, is whether the 3 NON-JEWS presently charged with
>>> >similar crimes, will now also be allowed to leave Canada, without
>>> >having to spend the normal 5 years in prison?
>
>>> >Or, is this generosity only available to damn JEW KIDDIE PORN
>>> >DISTRIBUTORS, especially if they are connected to a synagogue??
>
>>> >>> > wrote:
>
>>> ARREST SHOCKS SYNAGOGUE; TEACHER FLIES BACK TO U.S.
>>> By EVA HOARE and AMY PUGSLEY FRASER Staff Reporters
>
>>> A Hebrew school teacher and cantor at a Halifax synagogue, who downloaded
>>> hundreds of pornographic photographs of children from the Internet, was
>>> fined $2,200 in court Tuesday.
>
>>> The fine was paid and Suart David Friedman, a
>>> well-liked and respected member of the Beth Israel Synagogue, promptly left
>>> the country for his native United States.
>
>>> It's the first charge of its kind in Nova Scotia and justice officials
>>> hinted that Mr. Friedman's activities - downloading a personal fantasy
>>> collection of boys performing sexual and sadomasochistic acts - could be
>>> connected to an international child pornography ring.
>
>>> Mr. Friedman, 42, of South Park Street, Halifax, pleaded guilty to
>>> possessing child pornography from the Internet. When Canada Customs and
>>> police officers arrested him during a raid on his apartment Monday, the
>>> cantor was surfing the Net. Although his private cache contained photographs
>>> and videos - as well as gay and bondage magazines - the bulk of his
>>> collection was 223 computer-generated photos of child pornography stored on
>>> diskettes, on two computer hard drives, and on computer printouts.
>
>>> ``It's extremely disgusting,'' said Const. Gary Martin of the Halifax
>>> Regional Police Service, whose officers also conducted a search of Chebucto
>>> Freenet offices, Mr. Friedman's Internet provider. ``Ninety per cent of this
>>> material was obtained either directly or indirectly through the Internet.
>>> Some ... was directly downloaded from the Internet and some ... was obtained
>>> from different groups that are within the Internet,'' Const. Martin said.
>>> ``The pictures are very explicit. It covers just about every avenue of
>>> pornography that's out there.''
>
>>> Canada Customs' intelligence division started working the case last
>>> September and then brought in regional police, said Ed Osborne, customs'
>>> regional intelligence officer.
>
>>> Now officers - who'll spend hundreds of hours poring over the materials -
>>> want to know if any Nova Scotian children were depicted in the ``gruesome''
>>> photos and material seized. But they do not expect that will be the case.
>
>>> Parents of children who attended the Hebrew school, shocked by the arrest,
>>> planned to meet Tuesday night. ``As aware as people are that these things
>>> can and do happen, it's still a shock,'' said Cathy Fox, president of the
>>> Beth Israel Synagogue. Her three children - two sons and a daughter - were
>>> taught by Mr. Friedman at the synagogue's Hebrew school. ``It's a very
>>> difficult time.''
>
>>> The cantor - who leads the congregation in song - taught her 13- year-old
>>> son songs and chants that were part of his bar mitzvah ceremony last
>>> October, Mrs. Fox said.
>
>>> Some members will feel betrayed as a result of the charges. ``I think the
>>> elderly members of our congregation will be very hurt by this.'' Some are
>>> appalled while others expressed sympathy. ``I'm very saddened,'' said Robert
>>> Wolman, president of the synagogue's board of governors.
>
>>> Mr. Wolman said he and other board members heard about the case Monday night
>>> and Mr. Friedman was immediately dismissed.
>
>>> Wearing an olive-colored trenchcoat and a black yarmulke (skull cap) over
>>> his greying hair, a pale and visibly nervous Mr. Friedman was ushered into
>>> provincial court by two sheriff's deputies. Refusing even to look up at the
>>> judge, he stared resolutely at the floor while wringing his hands.
>
>>> ``This is the first (such) charge through our office,'' Crown attorney Frank
>>> Hoskins told Judge Hughes Randall. ``But it sends a message out to the
>>> public that if you're in possession of these images from your Internet and
>>> they're child pornography, you can be charged with a criminal offence and
>>> get a criminal record and a substantial fine,'' Mr. Hoskins said later.
>
>>> Article Segment 2 of 2
>>> (Ge
>>> (Get All
>
>>> Canada Customs received information about a child pornography ring in Canada
>>> and the United States operating via the Internet, surface mail and
>>> electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said.
>
>>> Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and
>>> that they also found letters with explicit sexual content. A second search
>>> conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records.
>
>>> Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said Mr. Friedman, who co-operated
>>> with police, was only using the material for his own sexual fantasies. ``His
>>> intent was possession, not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown.
>
>>> The former cantor - who is not married - has provided information that will
>>> help police bring more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, Mr. Hoskins=
>>> said.
>
>>> Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the department's Internet
>>> specialist, said this is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every angle at
>>> this time. He's not the only person. ... The investigation does involve law
>>> enforcement officials in Canada and in the United States.''
>
>>> Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated over the alleged distribution
>>> of photos to other Internet users. Police won't say which American agencies
>>> are involved and the U.S. Customs Service, reached late Tuesday, declined
>>> comment.
>
>>> Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender his computers, valued at
>>> $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine
>>> ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). Two sets of handcuffs were also
>>> confiscated.
>
>>> After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston
>>> to be with his family.
>
>>> Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - the offence carries a
>>> maximum of five years in prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they
>>> did say there was a plea bargain.
>
>>> Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an American university, arrived
>>> in Halifax in August 1994 and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last
>>> posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. The man, whose job was to lead
>>> prayers, teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for bar mitzvah, has no
>>> prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said.
>
>>> ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox,
>>> who wanted to break the news to her children before they heard it through
>>> the media.
>>> ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... I'm still thinking
>>> about how we will handle this.''
>
>>> Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would review of the matter as soon as
>>> possible and plans to tighten the screening process for future cantors.
>
>>> Police also said they found a stash of adult pornography - 31 nude or
>>> partially-nude self-portraits - but the charges stem from the child-related
>>> material.
>
>>> With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey
>>> The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997.
>
>>> Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to:
>>> http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org
>
>
>>> >On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:54:44 +0100, "mkarwan"  wrote:
>
>>> >>http://judicial-inc.biz/freidman_pedophiles_from_hell.htm
>
>>> >One Of Jewry's Most Explosive Incidences
>
>>> >Every now and then, there is a crime so ghastly, that even the Jewish media
>>> >control can't prevent the world from knowing. The crimes of the Friedmans were
>>> >so atrocious, that no string pulling was going to stop this investigation.
>
>>> >They were running a day care in the morning, and teaching computers to 8, 9,
>>> >and 10 yr olds in the afternoon.
>
>>> >They were found to have molested  hundreds of children, and taken extensive
>>> >video and photographic files on their molestations.
>
>>> It seems that much of the pornography and especially KIDDIE PORN
>>> rackets worldwide are run by the JEWS!

If you believe in the TRUTH and the RIGHT,
then visit  www.freedomsite.org

Lawyers, politicians, and judges need to be recycled - as fertiliser!!

"At a time of universal deceit - telling the truth 
is a revolutionary act." 
(George Orwell)

David Icke - '...and the truth shall set you free'

"All truth passes through three stages. 
First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, 
and third, it is accepted as self-evident."
(Arthur Schopenhauer)

"The reason men are silenced is not because they speak falsely, 
but because they speak the truth. This is because if men speak 
falsehoods, their own words can be used against them; while if 
they speak truly, there is nothing which can be used
against them -- except force." -- John Bryant  

"To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an 
acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer 
and impossible to ignore."
--John Bryant


Posted by: 
Patrick Lee Humphrey
7500 Bellerive #1807
Houston, Texas 77036-3040
1-713-266-7764

Steven Horn (KCOM)
1836 NW 11th St
Oklahoma City, OK 73106
(405) 524-0576

together with
Boris Dynin  = NAMBLA executive & 
Henry 
CALL late nights to discuss: (408) 773-0984
Email me: boris@movil.com , boris@sonic.net or even 
VISIT me at:
55 Chumasero Drive, Daly City, San Francisco  94132

We all like late night discussions, even from Stormfront,
Christian Identity, Pamyat, Aryan Nations, etc.
We are together with McVay, regional managers for NAMBLA.
We like young children, so that we can train them our way.


Ken McVay invites callers,and visitors,to his homosexuals escorts
office: VISIT at:
#5 - 1601 - Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada, or my home at:
Apt. 3108 - 995 Bowen Road, Nanaimo, B.C., Canada
or call: 1-250-616-9431

As everyone can see McVay takes it as a compliment when he is 
called a "confessed child-molester" and the additional material 
should give an indication as to the why.

"I am weary of seeing the issue of "child porn" blown out of
proportion (I've been on and around the Net since 1988, and have
yet to come across anything I'd consider "child porn." I've
seen photos of naked children, but then I've got some of those in
my family photo album, and fail to see the harm, or any great
moral danger to our society)." - Nizkor Director Ken McVay
http://www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html [Many paedophiles
also have family albums with naked children photos in them.]

Look at Ken McVay's photo and ask yourselves; "Does he not look like 
a disheveled unkempt pervert or someone who would molest your child
even if he or she were not naked"?
http://www.protocol.gov.bc.ca/protocol/prgs/obc/1995/1995_KMcVay.jpg

For detailed and documented evidence of McVay's questionable
background and details of convictions, please refer to Dr.David
Michael's
detailed expose on McVay. McVay is a distraught paranoid molseter, and
is
known for claiming that anyone who refutes his lies must be a
grosvenor!! 
It is also suspected that McVay fabricates responses using aliases,
just 
to justify his existence to his ZHID masters.

Since I am a female, I also like to receive many calls, to discuss
NAMBLA,lesbianism, JEW atrocities and similar.
Email  me, Shiksa Susan Cohen at: Flavia18@verizon.net, especially
late nights.

Also,be sure to include me on maillists:
Keith Spencer,5005 Whitemud Road,Edmonton,AB,Canada T6H5L2
I welcome phone calls, late nights:(780)437-1787  or  
send lots of emails to: krs2@ualberta.ca, or phone to
work:(780)492-0473

And also: George Firestone: "George" ,
and davejoll@ihug.co.nz.

Here is Fag Rianin's own web page:  http://gaydar.co.uk/riain_il
Notice he is a self confessed ZionistFagJew!

For the real TRUTH about ZHIDS, visit the world top-rated website for
JEW-WATCH:
http://www.jewwatch.com

Now with more evidence coming out proving ZHID COLLABORATION WITH
NAZIS - another 51 cases besides the renowned Kastner case - no wonder
people around the world are really disliking the Christkiller ZHIDS!!

Or, other useful websites include:
ZUNDELSITE - www.zundelsite.org
IHR - www.ihr.org
OSTARA - www.ostara.org
PAMYAT - http://abbc.com/pamyat/index.html
Edgar J.Steele - www.ConspiracyPenPal.com
AL JAZEERA - http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
THE HOFFMAN WIRE - Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, 
    Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History
    Subscribe: HoffmanWire-subscribe@topica.com

Or, visit the website for NATIONAL ALLIANCE : http://www.natall.com
They have lots of information, as well as books and records.

They also are involved in exposing Ken McVay for the crook he is,
and passing on information to the appropriate criminal prosecutors.

As a service to the public, this article is posted worldwide by a 
victim of the molester pervert Ken McVay, with the assistance
of a group interested in detailing the depredations of the ZHIDS.
May Ken McVay and his like,rot in gehenna.




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Subject: Re: Why appeal your Property Assessment? Beause City Tax Assessors Are Either Corrupt, or Crooks!!
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On Fri, 26 May 2006 16:21:08 GMT, Asterix
 wrote:

Even Robert Weldon wants everyone to know about the crooks in the city
tax department, which is why he reposts the header.

Guess even a high roller like Weldon resents other crooks in town
getting away with graft and corruption?

>On Fri, 26 May 2006 07:56:39 GMT, "sharx35" 
>wrote:
>>"TopPoster."  wrote in message 
>>news:Ggydg.230$Dq.236618@news.sisna.com...
>>> Sharx the nark

>>Well, SOME day, if you save up all your welfare payments, you, too, may 
>>become a home owner and concerned about property taxes.

>Well said, sharx.

If it wasn't for Grosvenor exposing the HALF MILLION A YEAR DELIBERATE
UNDER-ASSESSMENT ON THE PROPERTY AT 13723 - 93 ST., which was
deliberately under-assessed for 8 years, the public would not have had
the PROOF as to how crooked the city tax assessors are!!


>>> Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once
>>> they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. 
>>> If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
>>> should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, 
>>> but the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the 
>>> erroneous

>>> "sharx35"  wrote in message
>>> news:Feydg.35358$Qq.27711@clgrps12...
>>>> "John Fleming"  wrote in message
>>>> news:vcga7297ahfl0kb5o229s1lqq7gafok2v5@4ax.com...
>>>> > On Wed, 24 May 2006 20:58:07 GMT, while chained to a desk in the
>>>> > scriptorium, Lance Boyle  wrote:
>>>> >> $SamIAm wrote:

>>>> >> $> There are many good reasons to appeal your property assessment.
>>> Here are some reasons:

>>>> >> $> Tell them about the busy streets or the noisy development or
>>>> >> $> a problem with your roof or plumbing.

>>>> >> $> 2)  Your property is below average for your community.

>>>> >> $> So if most of the properties in your neighbourhood have
>>>> >> $> upgraded flooring, cabinets, plumbing, etc. and yours isn't then 
>>>> >> you are probably over assessed.

>>>> >> $> 3)  You live in a neighbourhood where many of your neighbours have
>>>> >> built garages or have completed basement development or have done
>>>> >> renovations and you haven't.

>>>> >> $In other words, you live in an overvalued shithole.

>>>> > LOL

>>>> > Of course, his best option might be to just sell the house and buy
>>>> > something nicer in another neighbourhood.  (I was going to say, he 
>>>> > could do a kitchen upgrade, but if odne legally with all the necessary
>>>> > building permits, the city might just increase the assessed market 
>>>> > value and bump up the taxes.)
>>>> > John Fleming
>>>> > Edmonton, Canada

>>>> Doing upgrades WITHOUT permits eventually pisses off the neighbours 
>>>> enough that at least ONE of them will file a complaint. I know, I've filed such
>>>> complaints. Why should *I* pay more property taxes than some scofflaw who
>>>> refuses to get the permits?



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Subject: Re: Anyone care to comment? Crooked Scholl Board Wasted Millions!
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Typical bureaucratic SCAM!!
The big shots KNEW they were OVERPAYING the teachers, but chose to do
nothing!
The principals KNEW they were OVER BUDGET, but chose to do nothing!
The teachers knew the Board could not afford them, but di not give a
damn.

What is more alarming, the AUDITORS KNEW THERE WERE SERIOUS FINANCIAL
IRREGULARITIES, NAD CHOSE TO COVER THEM UP FOR THOSE YEARS, INSTEAD OF
EXPOSING THE PEOPLE WHO PAID THEM!!
Does CA still stand for CROOKED ACCOUNTANT?


On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 23:35:57 GMT, Sew 
wrote:

>CARRIE McFADZEAN
>Examiner Staff 

>Edmonton Catholic School (ECS) trustees are changing the way they
>operate.
>
>Opening up lines of communication, taking back some of the
>superintendent’s power and playing a role on the budget committee are
>part of sweeping changes in the board’s governance policy.
>
>“For some time, the board has felt the governance model we’ve been
>using hasn’t been working that well,” says board chairperson Debbie
>Cavaliere.
>
>The changes, which were made during a board retreat in late May,
>follow a tumultuous time in the district.
>
>Earlier this year, a $10 million deficit, caused by accounting errors
>and overspending, was discovered. It will take the district five years
>to pay it back. At the end of February, superintendent Dale Ripley’s
>contract was terminated.
>
>While a new superintendent hasn’t been hired yet, Cavaliere says the
>timing was right to change the board’s governance policies.
>
>“It’s a dramatic shift in thinking and it’s time for the change,” she
>says.
>
>The board has been using the Carver model of governance since 1997.
>
>Under this model, used by many school boards in Alberta, trustees set
>policy direction, which is implemented by the superintendent who
>reports directly to the board.
>
>All district staff report only to the superintendent and have no
>contact with trustees.
>
>“Under that model, the board delegated a lot of responsibility,” says
>Cavaliere. 
>
>“It kept only those responsibilities that cannot be delegated like
>school closures, budget allocations and teacher transfers. Everything
>else was delegated to the superintendent.”
>
>Trustees were making important decisions based on information provided
>by the superintendent.
>
>Wanting a broader perspective and information base, trustees signaled
>a need for change.
>
>The new made-in-Edmonton-Catholic model gives more power to the
>trustees.
>
>For example, a trustee will now sit on the budget committee.
>
>Trustees will determine what responsibilities and authority district
>staff have.
>
>The superintendent will still have many of the same responsibilities,
>but trustees will now be able to ask senior staff questions directly.
>
>“It doesn’t put the onus on the superintendent to gather and relay the
>information,” says Cavaliere. “It’s much more effective and more
>efficient.”
>
>The new governance documents are being drafted and will come to a
>public meeting in the fall for a trustee vote.



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Typical bureaucratic SCAM!!
The big shots KNEW they were OVERPAYING the teachers, but chose to do
nothing!
The principals KNEW they were OVER BUDGET, but chose to do nothing!
The teachers knew the Board could not afford them, but di not give a
damn.

What is more alarming, the AUDITORS KNEW THERE WERE SERIOUS FINANCIAL
IRREGULARITIES, NAD CHOSE TO COVER THEM UP FOR THOSE YEARS, INSTEAD OF
EXPOSING THE PEOPLE WHO PAID THEM!!
Does CA still stand for CROOKED ACCOUNTANT?


On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 23:35:57 GMT, Sew 
wrote:

>CARRIE McFADZEAN
>Examiner Staff 

>Edmonton Catholic School (ECS) trustees are changing the way they
>operate.
>
>Opening up lines of communication, taking back some of the
>superintendent’s power and playing a role on the budget committee are
>part of sweeping changes in the board’s governance policy.
>
>“For some time, the board has felt the governance model we’ve been
>using hasn’t been working that well,” says board chairperson Debbie
>Cavaliere.
>
>The changes, which were made during a board retreat in late May,
>follow a tumultuous time in the district.
>
>Earlier this year, a $10 million deficit, caused by accounting errors
>and overspending, was discovered. It will take the district five years
>to pay it back. At the end of February, superintendent Dale Ripley’s
>contract was terminated.
>
>While a new superintendent hasn’t been hired yet, Cavaliere says the
>timing was right to change the board’s governance policies.
>
>“It’s a dramatic shift in thinking and it’s time for the change,” she
>says.
>
>The board has been using the Carver model of governance since 1997.
>
>Under this model, used by many school boards in Alberta, trustees set
>policy direction, which is implemented by the superintendent who
>reports directly to the board.
>
>All district staff report only to the superintendent and have no
>contact with trustees.
>
>“Under that model, the board delegated a lot of responsibility,” says
>Cavaliere. 
>
>“It kept only those responsibilities that cannot be delegated like
>school closures, budget allocations and teacher transfers. Everything
>else was delegated to the superintendent.”
>
>Trustees were making important decisions based on information provided
>by the superintendent.
>
>Wanting a broader perspective and information base, trustees signaled
>a need for change.
>
>The new made-in-Edmonton-Catholic model gives more power to the
>trustees.
>
>For example, a trustee will now sit on the budget committee.
>
>Trustees will determine what responsibilities and authority district
>staff have.
>
>The superintendent will still have many of the same responsibilities,
>but trustees will now be able to ask senior staff questions directly.
>
>“It doesn’t put the onus on the superintendent to gather and relay the
>information,” says Cavaliere. “It’s much more effective and more
>efficient.”
>
>The new governance documents are being drafted and will come to a
>public meeting in the fall for a trustee vote.



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On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:21:45 -0400, "seven" 
wrote:
>"Maxx"  wrote in message 
>news:1150911812.671922.126710@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> Frank Arthur wrote:
>>> The local media had a great day publicising------

>> Where's the proof

>>> This Gestapo-like thug was photographed by several reporters

>> Where can I view these photos?

>>> In another incident the same night, a lawyer was tasered illegally, for 
>>> taking  pictures of police brutality. He is now laying charges against the cops
>>> involved.

>> How about a link?

For both of these stories, which were extensively documented, go to
the Edmonton Journal site.

>>> And the police chief seems to be doing nothing



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Typical bureaucratic SCAM!!
The big shots KNEW they were OVERPAYING the teachers, but chose to do
nothing!
The principals KNEW they were OVER BUDGET, but chose to do nothing!
The teachers knew the Board could not afford them, but di not give a
damn.

What is more alarming, the AUDITORS KNEW THERE WERE SERIOUS FINANCIAL
IRREGULARITIES, NAD CHOSE TO COVER THEM UP FOR THOSE YEARS,